Old ruling is that if a piece has no legal move, the king must be moved. If both the piece touch and king cannot move, then you get to move the next piece you touch.
Are there FIDE rated tournaments that do not use time control?
Here are the FIDE rules:
7.4 a. If during a game it is found that an illegal move, including failing to meet the requirements of the promotion of a pawn or capturing the opponent’s king, has been completed, the position immediately before the irregularity shall be reinstated. If the position immediately before the irregularity cannot be determined the game shall continue from the last identifiable position prior to the irregularity.The clocks shall be adjusted according to Article 6.13. The Articles 4.3 and 4.6 apply to the move replacing the illegal move. The game shall then continue from this re-instated position.
Source: FIDE Laws Of Chess
But essentially you'll have to call the arbiter and he/she will tell you what happens.
All different answers everyone guessing pretty much, can someone strictly answer my scenarios by FIDE rules in your own words what is the consequences etc...
I'm not asking about FIDE TOURNAMENT play I'm asking if two players were playing and they argue and say they called an official person or an arbiter or someone that knows the rules, what proper rules apply in my scenarios?
I think you don't even know chess rules or know even less then me
To promote a pawn , pawn MUST reach 8th rank Im surprised you don't know this
What about touch rule? You touch you move !
Are there FIDE rated tournaments that do not use time control?
Here are the FIDE rules:
7.4 a. If during a game it is found that an illegal move, including failing to meet the requirements of the promotion of a pawn or capturing the opponent’s king, has been completed, the position immediately before the irregularity shall be reinstated. If the position immediately before the irregularity cannot be determined the game shall continue from the last identifiable position prior to the irregularity.The clocks shall be adjusted according to Article 6.13. The Articles 4.3 and 4.6 apply to the move replacing the illegal move. The game shall then continue from this re-instated position.
Source: FIDE Laws Of Chess
But essentially you'll have to call the arbiter and he/she will tell you what happens.
What if there's no arbiters just you and your opponents can you explain each scenario in your own words not just copy and paste FIDE rules
The arbiter's role is baked into the FIDE laws of chess, you can't just say "if there's no arbiter" if you want to know what FIDE rules dictate.
But it is all there, can't you read it? The position is to be set to the one before the illegal move. It is never an instant loss. If it is not clear if the move is illegal, it is the arbiter's call.
As for turning rooks upside down, I don't think FIDE rules have anything to say about it.
As for promotion rules, read the document I provided, it is all there (and don't tell us we have to spoon feed it to you, you can read, can't you).
And lastly, outside of a FIDE regulated tournament FIDE rules don't mean anything. For example, in USCF tournaments it is the USCF rules that apply, not FIDE's.
FIDE rule 3.6e "When a pawn reaches the rank furthest from its starting position it must be exchanged as part of the same move on the same square..."
Pretty clear that putting a queen on 8 and removing pawn from 7 isn't even a move since no piece actually moved. Under FIDE rules this is illegally messing around with pieces on the board. Unless a player had a history of doing this, I image the penalty, under 13.4, would be a warning.
I would be a good sport about it and give my opponent another chance
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1 scenario:
"you lost a game because it's an illegal move" ++ You do not lose a game by making an illegal move the first time, only the second illegal move cause a loss .
'7.5.1 If during a game it is found that an illegal move has been completed,
the position immediately before the irregularity shall be reinstated.'
'7.5.5 After the action taken under Article 7.5.1, 7.5.2, 7.5.3 or 7.5.4 for the first completed illegal move by a player, the arbiter shall give two minutes extra time to his/her opponent; for the second completed illegal move by the same player the arbiter shall declare the game lost by this player.'
2 scenario:
"Pawn is on 7th rank , player just puts the queen on 8th rank and then just takes off the pawn of the board from 7th rank ! Is this an illegal move and instant loss!?"
++ No, it is not illegal. '4.6.1 the pawn does not have to be placed on the square of arrival.'
"Last question : if promoted to a queen but instead placing a an upside down rook and pressing the clock is this an illegal move and instant loss."
++ Yes, it is illegal, but no, it is no instant loss the first time.
'7.5.2 If the player has moved a pawn to the furthest distant rank,
pressed the clock, but not replaced the pawn with a new piece, the move is illegal.'
"OR it can be considered as a rook not a queen and game continues!?"
++ No. '7.5.2 The pawn shall be replaced by a queen of the same colour as the pawn.'
1 scenario:
No clock used.
PlayerA touches a pawn( touch rule, must move it!) BUT it opens check from a queen (so it's an illegal move) . So in this scenario touch move I don't care you touch you move it and then after you move it you lost a game because it's an illegal move ! OR You can change it , because you saw its an illegal move BUT then it contradicts with the first rule you touch you move it ! What is the proper rule here by FIDE standards?
2 scenario:
No clock used
Pawn is on 7th rank , player just puts the queen on 8th rank and then just takes off the pawn of the board from 7th rank ! Is this an illegal move and instant loss!? Because pawn never reached 8th rank right?
Last question : if promoted to a queen but instead placing a an upside down rook and pressing the clock is this an illegal move and instant loss OR it can be considered as a rook not a queen and game continues!?