Can you be a rubbish chess player and have a really high IQ?

@tygxc very interesting what he did. I would presume children taught chess at a young age even if they abandon it would have a higher IQ than average.

Nakamura did a troll job on the IQ test…He is easily 140.

Intelligence determines how much you learn from your actions, so you can learn faster with a high one.

still you can fill the gap by trying a lot, assuming you try different things everytime. dont expect to learn new things by doing the same mistakes..

speaking of which, mistakes.. mistakes teach you. that is the way.

I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, and this is a double-edged sword for me. Regarding chess, I have a surprisingly good tactical vision for someone who is only rated 900, but at the same time, nearly 2000 in puzzles. Still, I struggle to make a concrete plan, often missing elementary ideas from my opponent that I wouldn't usually miss, eg. I missed a simple mate-in-one from my opponent and instead captured a pawn. But in regards to my daily life... I have been shown to demonstrate a high level of intellectual understanding regarding a variety of topics... including chess fundamentals. This is why I would much rather study the game for its intricacies than play games and worry about my rating. This is how I get the most enjoyment out of the game, which should be the main objective for most individuals on this site.

A good idea I suggest is to find a facet of the game that you are best orientated towards... for example, endgame, and enjoy studying and understanding the beauty and complexity of that facet... chess is such a varied game. You do not have to play full games to get the most out of 'The Game of Kings', especially if you are someone who, like me, gets hurt more from the sting of defeat than you find joy in your victories. Play the game for what it is, and don't be overly bothered or stressed about your rating, as this is the main reason many people don't improve: the stress of feeling like you have to win, for the sake of increasing your rating can be very debilitating, and I speak from experience.

We all makes mistakes, other people are doing it in their brain. They are making imaginations that of what will happen if they do something bad. I don't know how to call it. I might say it is somehow a simulated reality I guess?... We all do this a lot, but others are doing it better.

God, I hope so.

to be honest with you how the fricc does watching 5 hours of anime a day give you higher grades or raise your IQ

Provide evidence please. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke.

He took the standard Mensa test on camera and scored 102. Probably not the ideal testing conditions but certainly not "wrong" enough to make a difference of magnitude sufficient to make us think he actually has a genius IQ. Nakamura has never complained about the testing or insisted he's really a genius.

I played for years at the Berkeley (CA) chess club and saw high-IQ UC Berkeley students and professors play weekly for years without advancing out of the Class B level.

No, the natural assumption is that a person who took the same test thousands of others have taken, done so in public, and said they were satisfied the test was accurate should be believed.

Oracle wrote that Nakamura's IQ must be 140--that is the unsubstantiated claim for which I requested evidence.

PS--Your opinion that the test must have been flawed also lacks any evidentiary validity. Just because an event turns out contrary to your expectations does not prove that tomfoolery was involved.

Yes.

You are so obsessed with being smart you are out of track. You must chill first if things are getting hot. Don't be too much serious of becoming great. Don't forget to pace your speed because life is like running a marathon. You don't have to run very fast to become fastest. You must run at your own pace.

Oh anyway. I suggested OP to watch anime because the topic is too hot to handle he must cool things first before grabbing it. Plus, there are a lot of people in anime's who wants to become great. They have many different social status he can empathize their feelings, pains, issues, ambition, and anything else. It is better for him to have empathy first before greatness. Really, that is the best thing that I got for him.

If I can't convince you, there is nothing I can do. Sorry. I hope someday you will learn the truth. If I am wrong, sorry for the hassle.

@47

"It doesn't make much sense to take IQ tests as an adult. "
++ Armies take IQ tests of recruits.
Courts take IQ tests of accused.
All accused of the Nuremberg trials were IQ tested.

IQ and Geniosity are not always directly proportional to each other because creativity also matters...

@50

Richard Feynman scored 125.
That is on par with Kramnik 120.

Let me sort out things because it is so obvious in broad daylight but you didn't understand what he is saying.

110 years ago ---- It means around 1914

Some folks ---- any person but he didn't undentified them.

This exam ---- most of IQ tests are paperworks

You can like rotate objects in 3 dimensions ---- mental rotation

They should have called it cognitive test --- he wants the people behind IQ test to call it cognitive test. Cognitive means relating to the mental process involved in knowing, learning, and understanding things.

But they didn't --- then it didn't happen

They call it intelligence test --- the people behind IQ test call it intelligence test

They grabbed the word intelligence --- intelligence means the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills

Then everyone --- all of us

thinks --- he meant defining people by it

it's a measure you do for that test --- yes it is of course it is a measure

Okay --- he meant he understood

That's what that it is --- he meant it is just a test

I'm not gonna deny that --- he meant he didn't say it's false

But now you're gonna say --- he is anxious of what people are talking about IQ test

Your intelligence --- he have a confused tone of what people are talking about it

And then you say that as proxy --- proxy - a figure that can be used to represent the value of something in a calculation

for anything else you might do in life? --- he really don't want people to be defined by it

that is criminal --- because all of the words about are about IQ test and people are defined by it. He want to say that labeling is criminal.

with regard to true ambition --- I don't know what to say about this. Talk to him about it.

in this world --- not just earth, but the whole universe. There are a lot of definition. But since he is talking most of the time about science. He might mean the whole reality itself.

Now I hope you understand.

Well, here is a link from a website hope you read this.

https://www.verywellmind.com/history-of-intelligence-testing-2795581

Read all of this, especially the Debates Surrounding IQ Testing.

From Wikipedia, quoting Feynman biographer and historian James Gleick on Feynman's IQ, which Feynman said as far as he knew was true:

An IQ test administered in high school estimated his IQ at 125—high but "merely respectable", according to biographer James Gleick.^[21][22]

Feynman had an incredibly quick wit and amazing sense of humor, which many equate with high intelligence. And indeed Feynman was very intelligent. However, many people argue that he must have had a higher IQ than 125, just because they wanted him to. That's just not how it works.

Chess has nothing to do with IQ. It's just pattern recognition, intuition, understanding the strategies of your opening, the type of middlegame you want, and the endgame. None of that requires high intellect. You can gain all that from experience. You are not smart because you are good at chess, and you are not dumb because you are bad at it. You are good at a game, that's it. The benefits from playing chess really come from the analysis, and experience playing people in a zero-sum perfect information game. It gives you insight on human tendencies when people want to win a game, or a conflict. Otherwise, it is not really a very cerebral game. It's a fun game, and it teaches you how to analyze problems, use decision tree analysis etc. But you don't need to have some kind of special abilities to play the game and be good, you just need to be dedicated to the game, and dedicated to improvement.