can you win but not take any pieces
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Is it possible
Yup. If your opponent plays the worst chess of their life.
If you play as black then make white play e3 and bring the king out. And you do e6 to get the queen out and knights
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#4
Likely only in case your opponent is "helping you out" somehow.
The Fool's Mate is an example of a win with no pieces captured.
Wind wrote:
Likely only in case your opponent is "helping you out" somehow.
Like when Magnus Carlsen resigned on move 2 in an infamous game.
Can you do it with high level play in a trap where people usually fall into. Any ideas because I don’t play gambits. Only for fun.
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#7
You can checkmate without either side taking pieces in the two-move checkmate. That is white f3 then black e4 followed by white g4 and black finishing with queen h4 checkmate (one of several variations). If that is what you're asking
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#11
Also, I believe there's a few smother mates involving a pin on the king's pawn and a knight on either d3/d6 or f3/f6 that can happen without either side capturing
Scholars when black does f6.
Yes. If you play white:
e4 e5
Qh5 Nc6
Bc4 Bc5
Qxf7#
e4 e5
Qh5 Nc6
Bc4 Bc5
Qxf7#
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#14
YasKai_415 wrote:
Yes. If you play white:
e4 e5
Qh5 Nc6
Bc4 Bc5
Qxf7#
e4 e5
Qh5 Nc6
Bc4 Bc5
Qxf7#
Qxf7?
If you meant Q⇄f7 swapping the pieces, maybe but that's not allowed.
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#15
Josh11live wrote:
Can you do it with high level play in a trap where people usually fall into. Any ideas because I don’t play gambits. Only for fun.
Not checkmating without taking pieces. Its very rare. However the smother mate is probably the most common checkmate without any pieces being taken
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#16
It involves getting the queen out to pin the king pawn to the king then checkmating with the knight after the opponent traps their king with their own pieces
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#17
docfloss wrote:
Josh11live wrote:
Can you do it with high level play in a trap where people usually fall into. Any ideas because I don’t play gambits. Only for fun.
Not checkmating without taking pieces. Its very rare. However the smother mate is probably the most common checkmate without any pieces being taken
You can't open the e-file without captures. Fool's Mate is the most common.
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#18
ToastBread_1 wrote:
docfloss wrote:
Josh11live wrote:
Can you do it with high level play in a trap where people usually fall into. Any ideas because I don’t play gambits. Only for fun.
Not checkmating without taking pieces. Its very rare. However the smother mate is probably the most common checkmate without any pieces being taken
You can't open the e-file without captures. Fool's Mate is the most common.
You don't have to but that's a good point. You would have to push the e pawn one forward and then get your queen in front which is possible without takes. (for example pawn e3 then something like Qe2, Qd3, Qe4)
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#19
So therefore ToastBread_1, you don't have to actually open up the file for it to work
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docfloss wrote:
ToastBread_1 wrote:
docfloss wrote:
Josh11live wrote:
Can you do it with high level play in a trap where people usually fall into. Any ideas because I don’t play gambits. Only for fun.
Not checkmating without taking pieces. Its very rare. However the smother mate is probably the most common checkmate without any pieces being taken
You can't open the e-file without captures. Fool's Mate is the most common.
You don't have to but that's a good point. You would have to push the e pawn one forward and then get your queen in front which is possible without takes. (for example pawn e3 then something like Qe2, Qd3, Qe4)
You can, but the problem is your opponent is not gonna let you play those moves and probably play 1...e4. So it is not close to being most common. Fool's Mate is way more commoner in the lower levels.