Chess - what % skill?

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Avatar of Master_Po

Is chess 95% skill, 5% luck?  99% skill and 1% luck?  or what?  What do you all think? 

Avatar of waffllemaster

It's 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% conce... oh nevermind.

Avatar of TheGrobe

First we need to agree on the definitions of "skill" and "luck" (and "chess" for that matter) -- I'd argue it's 100% skill, but that's by my definition.

Avatar of Crazychessplaya

80% skill, 10% psychology, 10% physical fitness.

Avatar of TheGrobe

Does that make it 10% sport?

Avatar of Mirage_killer

80%skill .20% Depend on the psychological state during playing even with masters chess.and about the luck !!!!!!!!!!!!you are MADE the luck by yourself

Avatar of goldendog

First you get the luck, then you get the skill, then you get the women.

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Avatar of Saint-Paulia

50% skill - 25% genetic aptitude - 15% gumption & hard work - 10% luck per individual game.

Avatar of CHCL

1000000000000000000% talent.

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goldendog wrote:

First you get the luck, then you get the skill, then you get the women.

u speak about the life .not about chess Wink

Avatar of TheGrobe

Yeah, I'm pretty sure only the first two apply to chess.

Avatar of Mirage_killer

i dont know .why is not anyone say about experience Although. it an important factor

Avatar of transpo

I'd rather be lucky than good!!

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transpo wrote:

I'd rather be lucky than good!!

omg .if u is good .that is meannnnnnnnnnnnn u is lucky.right

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Franken_Berry wrote:

About 40% alcohol by volume.

Do not forget also!!!!!!!!!! much of it harmful heheheeee

Avatar of ElKitch

Anish Giri once said: I can be lucky in chess. That is when a player suddenly gets a black out by an external factor and makes a blunder. But I reckon at top levels that only happens in 0,1% of all the moves they make.

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snakesbelly wrote:

95% of chess is 50% skill ,comprising of 15% memory,20% tactical insight,15% strategic planning the other 50% is all about experience,aptitude,concentration,psychological ability then there is 5% left that is based on luck comprising of 2.5% chance and 2.5 % karma.

Some have argued that body odor actually makes about 5 -15 % of any game but that is only about 42% of the 300 people interviewed which makes up only .00004 % of all chess players so there is a 99% chance of most people ignoring that .

That's about 10% of what I think.

Truly worthy of praise .well done !!!!!!!nice words

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Well, look -- if you don't look at the queenside for one move, then if there is a tactic on that side of the board, you will allow your opponent to play it; a better player would probably look there (or maybe his instinct tells him he doesn't have to waste such time! Smile So there is a fuzzy area here).

Which player above shows more skill in that scenario? Probably the latter player mentioned. But let's say there wasn't a tactic on that particular move -- both players end up ignoring the queenside with the same move, and neither side gets punished. The "bad" player didn't make sure there wasn't anything wrong with his move; the good player did. It seems like the good player showed more skill, and yet didn't do any better than the bad player for this move.

With this in mind, I would say that it's possible, but not probable, to use more skill than someone on a given day, but still not get a better result than them. More skill means that you don't have to "oh I hope he doesn't see the opportunity I just gave him!" as much; being able to avoid those moments will help you in the long run, although occasionally someone can get away with missing a lot of stuff.

In conclusion, I think that there is an element of luck (or whatever you want to call it; in this case I would define it as possibly being rewarded for skill, but not in a guaranteed, proportional way) ,but that this does not justify blaming the result on luck since losing for something you didn't see is a part of the game for everybody. In other words, don't complain if your opponent finds a move against you he didn't originally see, because if you really wanted to avoid that you should have made sure he didn't have anything in the first place.

Skill is used to control your fate as much as possible, but it's not perfect. For example, a perfectly reasonable person can be the victim of a robbery. He can take the precautions ("make all the right moves"), such as locking the doors, keeping a light or two on, and yet it's still possible that a robber will break in anyway and end up taking something. Conversely, there might be people who take no precautions at all and have had no problems!

 

Hope that didn't sound too pretentious. This was fun.