Chess 960 should be called Chess 959

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Chess 960 is called 960 because of 960 possible starting positions. The math is 4x4x5x4x3x1. However, there is a flaw in the math. The flaw is that the 960 starting positions include the standard chess position. Thus, the standard chess position must be removed from the 960 starting positions which is 960-1=959.

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chess 960 sounds better though

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But it is inaccurate

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But a 960 game can be the starting position
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It can I've got it before

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Your point is true but chess959 would sound slightly stupid.
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The math is correct; Standard position can occur in chess 960.

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The point of Fischer Random /Chess 960 is to make opening theory unnecessary. If the standard chess position occurs in Fischer Random, it basically defies the purpose of Fischer Random as then opening theory is necessary.

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but 960 includes standard position bc there are 960 positions including the standard positon

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Having to play the standard game about once every thousand games in 960 doesn't seem to be terribly burdensome.

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Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

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yguo2014 wrote:

The point of Fischer Random /Chess 960 is to make opening theory unnecessary. If the standard chess position occurs in Fischer Random, it basically defies the purpose of Fischer Random as then opening theory is necessary.

You're allowed to prepare opening theory for any of the 960 positions.

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The starting position is randomized to make standard opening principles unnecessary.

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JosephReidNZ wrote:

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Is that even relevant?

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Bebbington32 wrote:

but 960 includes standard position bc there are 960 positions including the standard positon

So you have to remove it.

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Some tournament also exclude #534 aka mirror position. #518 is standard.

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JosephReidNZ wrote:

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Bughouse was made first

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yguo2014 wrote:
Bebbington32 wrote:

but 960 includes standard position bc there are 960 positions including the standard positon

So you have to remove it.

not how it works

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yguo2014 wrote:
JosephReidNZ wrote:

Why isn't Bughouse called Double Crazyhoue?

Is that even relevant?

no

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The positions shouldn't have to mirror each other, should be totally random, so really it should be chess 919,681.