chess 99 % tactics agree or disagree

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brettregan1

so one of my groups has a guy quoting a great player saying chess is 99 percent tactics - maybe at high levels but at my level it is all about who makes the most mistakes and he who sees the mistakes first wins

- I offer this example as proof - minding my own business later I saw his knight unprotected so I took it with my queen then saw checkmate with my knight / queen - like this twas a mistake ????? - - if I could ENGINEER this that is TACTICS - - -  this was he who sees the other guys mistakes first wins NOT TACTICS - if I could engineer this ( tactics ) -  I would be a 9000 player - so high players tactics yes - low players by guess by golly - agree or disagree

hhnngg1

Definitely disagree. 

 

The weaker you are, the more important tactics are because blunders are common.

 

The stronger you get, the rarer blunders get, and you start have to force your opponent into dicey positions where he can either blunder or go wrong. 

 

Even at my low level of play, in long games, if I don't make good positional moves, I will get beaten every single time if just going tactic-hunting, and the computer analysis will confirm that with this sort of poor strategic play, I indeed had zero tactical shots, and the opponent had all the winning chances.

 

I used to think you had to be like master level to play like this, but turns out even in 3-min blitz games, it's not uncommon at my low level of play to have no-blunder games where it's primarily decided on strategy until the final killing blow.

Diakonia

I much prefer Joel Benjamins quote:

Chess is 100% calculation.

hhnngg1

I'd disagree with that 100% calculation comment, except for computers.

 

If chess were 100% calculation, Magnus Carlsen at age 9 would have been as good as he is now, since he could calculate super-deep thanks to his brain back then. He however, had to gain a lot of chess knowledge to keep rising.

 

For class players though, it's probably largely true - the one that calculates deeper and more accurately will win the majority of the time. But there are plenty of times where calculational ability is similar, and knowledge of specific positions and how to play them becomes the dominant factor.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Chess is 99% Harmony between the pieces.

ap_resurrection

i think the lower you are in the rating scale, the more the comment about tactics being 99% is true - even up to a relatively high level, like when i play at the 1600ish level on chess.com, id say the majority of my games are stil that way - lots of people play purposely boring games where they trade off material, but still, giving up easy squares or tactics at some point (after maybe a lot of moves and time pressure) is usually what determines things, i dont expect that to change for the near future, but it will just get harder and harder

krudave

In my opinion the question of how much of chess is tactics, how much strategy and planning is like asking how much of a book is words, how much sentences/paragraphs, chapters,verses or whatever. It's 100% made up of words. The other things may or may not be there depending on the style of the book. Similarly, chess is 100% tactics/calculation, and the other things may or may not be there depending on the game. 

I love chess strategy, but it is overrated IMO. Most games are contests of will lost by mistakes caused by a slip in concentration, a momentary distraction, or fatique. This is true in games from beginner to the highest levels. Beginners just make bigger mistakes. Where a beginner might hang a piece, the master might miss a 3-5 move tactic that in the long run costs him a pawn. 

We may see games selected for the books showing a grand strategy pushing through to its logical conclusion, but if you play through the games of any famous player on a database, you'll find for every game like that 10 where both players just play normal chess until someone makes a tactical error, someone wins a pawn or two, and wins with solid endgame technique.

Now, it's possible to play to foster combinations, but then sometimes you'll find nice tactics in quiet positions, tough defensive positions, and even in much worse positions. Conversely, you can often establish a beautiful knight outpost, file control, etc. and have nothing to do with it. All depends on the position. 

This is an interesting topic.

ChrisWainscott
It was Teichmann who "Chess is 99% tactics." Is generally attributed to.

I don't believe that's correct. I prefer to quote Botvinnik. The Patriarch said "tactics are the servants of strategy" which means that tactics don't just appear out of thin air. Rather they tend to spring from the player with the better position.
SaintGermain32105

And the match with this guy was to prove something. Right? A false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

Diakonia

"tactics are the servants of strategy" 

Very well said!

SaintGermain32105

Tactics appear out of thin air because their's balance in nature.

BoredAbsurdist

30% tactics, 70% water

Diakonia

90% pieces...9% board...1% people

Ciak

in my case is 100% mistakes... 

Diakonia
jengaias wrote:

Chess is not calculation.You can calculate as deep as you can , that doesn't mean you can find the correct moves.If they put you against a very good player and give you an analysis board next to the real one so that you can try all lines and go as deep as you like , will you win?

I know a player that can play blind and he is quite good at it.You would expect that he would be even better at real chess.But his playing strength is almost exactly the same.His ability to even play a whole game blind hasn't helped him at all becoming a better player.

Your ability to evaluate correctly the position  is probably the most important quality of a chessplayer.I have watched many after-game interviews.Many times a player when asked how deeply he analysed a line , he answered " not  much,I knew it was good for me".This "I knew it was good for me" is the real invaluable ability.Once one gains this , everything becomes easier.In an interview in London chess classsic ,in a LukeMcShane-Carlsen game , Luke McShane lost almost all his time analysing deeply a very complicated piece sacrifice.Carlsen saw the sacrifice but decided not even to bother calculating it since  it was too dangerous to accept it and quickly played  a simple move.

Being the best in tactics helps but doesn't make you a good player.Calculating deeply helps  but doesn't make you a good player either.Evaluating the position correct and take good judgement calls is what makes you a good player. 

Chess is not 99% tactics or 100% calculation.It's 100% judgement and evaluation.

If you dont calculate, how do you come up with the "100% judgement and evaluation."

Diakonia
jengaias wrote:

Diakonia,

Calculating is a skill easily gained by time.I know players capable of playing blind a whole game , yet they are not good.If calculating was the most important then anyone that could play blind would be a great player.But that is far from true.

Even blunders are simply an evaluation mistake.Failing to understand the danger is an evaluation mistake.A good player doesn't have to avoid blunders.He knows which of his pieces are undefended and in a possible danger.The ability he develops to know the tactical dangers of the position without even calculating is what makes him better than a beginner.A beginner has to try hard to avoid blunders.A good player doesn't need to try at all.If you give the beginner an analysis board and you let him calculate as deep as he wants , he will be still be unable to avoid blunders.If you tell the good payer not to calculate and simply play the first move he sees on the board(bullet chess) he will still avoid blunders.He will still play better moves. 

So when youre playing a game, and you are analyzing what move to play, you arent calculating?

BigKingBud

Chess forums are 5% threads titled "chess is 99% tactics".

He was not being 100% serious, it's basically a joke.  'Strategy' is the twin sister of tactics in chess.   

Diakonia
jengaias wrote:

I am calculating , but my ability to know what to calculate is what makes me better than when I was at the start.In fact when I was beginner or a little later I remember calculating much more as I was trying to cover everything , many times confusing myself as I was totally unable to appreciate even simple and easy moves.

Thats what i was saying...you calculate.

Sitting-Duck

Please, chess is at least 50% memory, then 30% ability to see what is going on, 10% calculating, 5 % luck, 5%. managing time and 12% body odor.

vekla
jengaias wrote:

I am calculating , but my ability to know what to calculate is what makes me better than when I was at the start.In fact when I was beginner or a little later I remember calculating much more as I was trying to cover everything , many times confusing myself as I was totally unable to appreciate even simple and easy moves.

I totally recognize this. I had read in books that you have to consider several moves and still look for a better one and i calculated and calculated some more but i didn't know what to look for and just confused myself. I tried to hard so to speak and should have been told that as long as you don't have much chess knowledge all you can do is keep things simple. Months or years later one can calculate deeper.