Chess as a school subject?

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wgfan0

Hello, 

can somebody help me?

I'm going to give a presentation about the topic "Chess as a School Subject" and I'm looking for some agruments (pro and con) 

It would be nice if you could help me.

Thank you.

wgfan0

AsVan015

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Asrih015

wgfan0 wrote:

Hello, 

can somebody help me?

I'm going to give a presentation about the topic "Chess as a School Subject" and I'm looking for some agruments (pro and con) 

It would be nice if you could help me.

Thank you.

wgfan0

tes

ArgoNavis

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Develops spatial intelligence

Helps children focus

 

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Children should study maths, etc instead of "wasting" their time at school.

Some children may not like it (I'm not sure about this one).

Ziggy_Zugzwang
kaynight wrote:

Better to teach how to wire a plug, hang wall paper, basic plumbing or car maintenance.

Well that's true up to a point. I think the "hands on" stuff is neglected far too much.Perhaps partly because of the lack of discipline amongst many young people. I recall some some ill disciplined character having to have his finger sewn back on. I 've witnessed students squirting water through bunsen burners and I've been at two schools that were set on fire (not me I might add). There's a trust issue. Frigging about in a pen and paper lesson has less legal and safety issues as getting mangled in a lathe.

The problem with chess is that it teaches young people how to think. I don't believe the Establishment wants an intelligent free thinking people. Promoting chess in most schools, from personal experience and feedback is a hard slog. It prospers best in academically good schools were parents are supportive.

DoctorStrange
Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:
kaynight wrote:

Better to teach how to wire a plug, hang wall paper, basic plumbing or car maintenance.

Well that's true up to a point. I think the "hands on" stuff is neglected far too much.Perhaps partly because of the lack of discipline amongst many young people. I recall some some ill disciplined character having to have his finger sewn back on. I 've witnessed students squirting water through bunsen burners and I've been at two schools that were set on fire (not me I might add). There's a trust issue. Frigging about in a pen and paper lesson has less legal and safety issues as getting mangled in a lathe.

The problem with chess is that it teaches young people how to think. I don't believe the Establishment wants an intelligent free thinking people. Promoting chess in most schools, from personal experience and feedback is a hard slog. It prospers best in academically good schools were parents are supportive.

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Adilbala

Pro : improves logical thinking ,improves reading skills , improves analytical ability , helps in mind control, helps in concentration , is the only game which helps studies : chess improves maths Con : school curriculums are full in any case : this could burden kids more ; games should be optional and kids should be given a choice to select games ; given a choice an outdoor game is better for growing kids as there is physical activity

Pulpofeira

It depends; it's possible a different approach, based on using the game as an useful tool to enrich education of kids, instead of coaching future chess players: http://castleproject.eu/chess/

Johnkagey

wgfan0 wrote:

Hello, 

can somebody help me?

I'm going to give a presentation about the topic "Chess as a School Subject" and I'm looking for some agruments (pro and con) 

It would be nice if you could help me.

Thank you.

wgfan0

helps intellectual development. I think everyone should learn a musical instrument and to play chess.at least the basics.

jellytotts

makes children too focused on competitiveness and aggression and things that have no practical value.

mosai

High autism conversion rate, higher if you teach the kids eariler on.

This is a mixed blessing. Yes, it causes kids to have terrible social skills, but that usually makes them turn to intellectual pursuits.

m_liguori

http://ww2.kqed.org/mindshift/2016/04/25/how-a-chess-grandmaster-uses-the-game-to-teach-life-skills/

This might help your case a bit. 

Martin_Stahl

For more on the pro-side go to Google

https://www.google.com/#q=chess+curriculum+benefits

ANOK1

Ashton chess club do great work with local kids interested in chess

its an after school activity so oly impacts on the childs fun for a few hrs a week , and the kids love it when they beat the older fogeys in the league but top kudos is for 3cs of oldham , this chess club has 42 members the majority juniors but those juniors are reaching 225 ecf on a regular basis , many represent the county and country too ,

dont know any cons although kaynights post was fun to read

if you have a few moments follow this link to 3cs

http://www.3cschess.moonfruit.com/#/about-us/4570973266

rosewillliam

Excellent classes offered for children that want to learn chess. Lauren is a great instructors for beginners through advanced learners. Also get free chess ebook that will teach you the skills and strategies to start winning games by online chess learning. 

SilentKnighte5
rosewillliam wrote:

Excellent classes offered for children that want to learn chess. Lauren is a great instructors for beginners through advanced learners. Also get free chess ebook that will teach you the skills and strategies to start winning games by online chess learning. 

Please stop stealing pictures from the internet and pretending they're you.

ANOK1

i wasnt advertising if you mean my post re youth chess in my area , although i should be as i find what i see in these chess clubs inspiring , i wish i had similar when i first took up chess

ANOK1

i am though not a armed to the teeth alsation , but i get less respect as a bubble blowing chihuaha

Bnots

From a 2011 Brazilian television interview with one of the greats:

 

Garry Kasparov: It’s not about learning chess to become great professionals. Its about learning chess to improve educational skills. It’s already proven beyond any doubt that chess in the education system helps kids, and I think it’s a very cost-effective system to improve education.

 

JS: Can you give us an example?
Garry Kasparov: I’ll give you one example: there was an experience run in Germany by one of the German universities. They had classes, two classes. One had extra hours of mathematics. Another class, the same class, parallel, had extra hours in chess. At the end of the year, they compared the results in… mathematics! The class with chess won. But moreover it’s about social integration, because it helps kids to gain some self-esteem, it boosts their attitude, sense of logic…

 

JS: ...confidence...

GK: ...Confidence, you know, and discipline. Plus now it is related with computers. So you know, it could be a part of the computer learning. I think there are so many great things, and at the end of the day: it's cost-effective, because you don't have to build a stadium, a swimming pool, a tennis court. It's there.

 

http://en.chessbase.com/post/garry-kasparov-chats-with-brazilian-icon-j-soares

Pobokov73
I think it is important for kids to experience and value that which is not solely related to the world of work. The cost of university in England will prohibit working class kids from studying subjects like find art, philosophy etc because there is no obvious link to a job that will pay for the time of study. This is a real shame, so i am all in favour of chess within schools, I'd compare it to learning a musical instrument. Anything that expands the mind is good, God help us if we lose sight of the value of the achievements of our species, and focus purely on wiring plugs etc.