Destroyer_Mark_1420 wrote:
Everything on here is a troll thread the only non troll threads I can find are everything outside of General and Off Topic forums
Guys, it's a troll thread. Don't get sucked in.
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May 11, 2017
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#43
nimzomalaysian wrote:
Also what objectively makes your moves the best exactly?
MechHand wrote:
In that position no but I feel like black played very passively, to me it seems like 2. c5 would be a much more testing move of whites position, I understand that I am only 1000 rated but to me that just looks like white is asking to give black the initiative in the center and take control of the board. Maybe I just don't see everything but gambiting the c pawn for center domminace with a follow up of e5 just seems strong to me. Obviously white doesn't have to accept but you are now creating a stiuation as black where white most likely has to repond to the center attack and that puts the game already in your control in a sense, dose it not?
Well, I played the objectively best moves possible in that example, but let's see your line too.
If this is what you're suggesting, then you're wrong again. White simply keeps the extra pawn and is better, sure black has more space in the center but that won't last very long. I would rather play as white here.
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I prefer black in this position!
May 11, 2017
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#47
MechHand wrote:
.......On the main note of our discussion however you still haven't convinced me that having that big of a center isn't an advantage. You just dropped it down to how I interpret it as "your ratings too low you don't understand" which is just a terrible argument to make because understanding chess is easier then playing and applying everything you know
I think I did explain why white is better there. Let me say it again.
White is up a pawn and there doesn't seem to be a good way for black to win it. So black should now rely only on his "big" center to cook up something or he simply loses in the endgame. Black's pawns on e5 and d5 look very loose, they're over extended. So once white starts pushing his c and e pawns, the "big" center that you were counting on will collapse and black will enter an endgame being a pawn down which in most cases is an easy win for white. Convinced now?
May 11, 2017
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#48
nimzomalaysian wrote:
What about instead of 4. a5, black plays 4. a6, and then if white tries to play 5. Bb2 black can play 5. Kc6 which defends the e5 pawn and since a6 is played instead of a5 white has trouble pushing the b and c pawns. Unless there is another reason for a5 that I do not see.
MechHand wrote:
.......On the main note of our discussion however you still haven't convinced me that having that big of a center isn't an advantage. You just dropped it down to how I interpret it as "your ratings too low you don't understand" which is just a terrible argument to make because understanding chess is easier then playing and applying everything you know
I think I did explain why white is better there. Let me say it again.
White is up a pawn and there doesn't seem to be a good way for black to win it. So black should now rely only on his "big" center to cook up something or he simply loses in the endgame. Black's pawns on e5 and d5 look very loose, they're over extended. So once white starts pushing his c and e pawns, the "big" center that you were counting on will collapse and black will enter an endgame being a pawn down which in most cases is an easy win for white. Convinced now?
May 11, 2017
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#49
With 4. a6 black loses even faster.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to continue this discussion anymore, I would however suggest that you plug in your lines into an engine first before posting them here. Have fun.
May 11, 2017
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#50
nimzomalaysian wrote:
Why, what good is an engine
With 4. a6 black loses even faster.
I neither have the time nor the inclination to continue this discussion anymore, I would however suggest that you plug in your lines into an engine first before posting them here. Have fun.
May 11, 2017
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#51
nimzomalaysian wrote:
You find me an engine that explains concepts and I'll gladly do it otherwise why have an opinion if you don't want to back it up?
With 4. a6 black loses even faster.
I neither have the time nor the inclination to continue this discussion anymore, I would however suggest that you plug in your lines into an engine first before posting them here. Have fun.
May 11, 2017
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#52
The black pawn center isn't overextended - it's perfectly fine, and in fact pretty strong and easy to support.
White's up a pawn though, and that's why white is better lol. Black has some compensation, but it's not enough for sure.
May 11, 2017
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#53
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
So basically what your saying if I understand it right, is since the gambit in this situation doesn't give black immediate attacking chances it's not worth the pawn. A gambit that I found similar to this is the Queens gambit or a wing gambit in general ,which are somewhat similar but I guess the white pawn on the A file already pushed changes alot. Well I guess now I know what I am going to spend my week doing/studying. Either the Andersons opening is debunkable or its incredibly solid.
The black pawn center isn't overextended - it's perfectly fine, and in fact pretty strong and easy to support.
White's up a pawn though, and that's why white is better lol. Black has some compensation, but it's not enough for sure.
May 11, 2017
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#54
Though it's somewhat primitive, this site is awesome, every time it offers some thrilling challenges. Many things have changed over the past two years but, essentially, all significant details have remained the same. For example, overwhelmingly insistent, exasperating, dirrect, indirrect and sometimes sneaky... requests for more and more money are always on a background of delayed connection, ridiculous add-ons and painfully lagging chess moves. A few days ago a guy said that "the interface is overloaded with something that causes lag." Now I understand how and why. It's time to close this forgotten account. Goodbye and may God have mercy on your souls! (And, by the way, those who organize the backstage juggling should pay strong players for the show, not vice versa.)
Every time they update, the site becomes slower. I only play correspondence games because it takes 13 seconds before I can interact with the board. Of course, once the site reaches critical mass, it becomes too taxing on the servers.
Phantom_of_the_Opera wrote:
I can't even use it to prepare for OTB chess! even players rated up above 1700 play stupid junk like 1. h3 and just stupid Openings in general. what a mess. what is this site good for?
March 4th 2013 says different, no?
LO7 just noticed this thread started yesterday and with 72 posts he that started it only once.
May 11, 2017
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#58
jonesmikechess wrote:
Every time they update, the site becomes slower. I only play correspondence games because it takes 13 seconds before I can interact with the board. Of course, once the site reaches critical mass, it becomes too taxing on the servers.
You realize, right, that the lag you mention is resulting from your particular connection and/or hardware and/or software? Not everyone has lag like you describe...or any at all.
May 11, 2017
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#59
Having to think about positions, tactics, etc. under pressure here or elsewhere is good practice for OTB tournaments. When I coached a county champion and 3rd place in state high school team, they liked to play Bughouse (aka Siamese Chess) a lot during club meetings and I had no problem with that because they still had to see patterns, calculate, etc.
May 12, 2017
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#60
human-in-training wrote:
jonesmikechess wrote:
Every time they update, the site becomes slower. I only play correspondence games because it takes 13 seconds before I can interact with the board. Of course, once the site reaches critical mass, it becomes too taxing on the servers.
You realize, right, that the lag you mention is resulting from your particular connection and/or hardware and/or software? Not everyone has lag like you describe...or any at all.
I can typically count to 15.. slowly, before I get a full rendering of v3's screen. v2, pops up in 1/4th to 1/5th the time.
A lot of the delay is due to the extra amount of data v3 is shipping across the wires; another good portion is the additional processing requirements your own computer has to make once its received all that data.
Welcome to v3.
Long story short, at your level which is around 1000, games are not won/lost because of a novelty played in the opening. They are lost because of a blunder committed somewhere in the middle game. So I suggest that you work more on improving your tactical skills and try not to hang pieces rather than worrying about what move your opponent opens with.