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Chess com rating deflation due to corona?
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checkmateohwait wrote:
thats called being a noob
At 1500
Yes, big blunders at the beginning of the game are not necessarily sandbagging, and having an account banned for not cheating is too bad.
And not only noobs blunder. Even Bobby Fischer blundered his bishop in the endgame at the world championship 1972, and lost that important match. I don't think he was cheating.
I think there is what could be called "unintentional sandbagging", or "unintentional cheating".
1500 rating is considered a noob's rating. At least noob enough for frequent blundering.
There is another fenomena: For example, when people get used to blitz games, when they play longer time control games they lose almost all of them. Then suddenly, when they get used to low time controls, they start to win all matches. That's another unintentional sandbagging.
ouchhhh
And yet another fenomena: Unintenional sandbagging when a 1500 player don't play for months for job, illness reasons or whatever, then suddenly starts to play again and blunder constantly until he gets used to win like before.
Sometimes chess is like going to the gym. If you lose practice you become bad, and if you start again you become as strong as before, because positional play and other theory concepts are not forgotten, only practice.
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Apr 18, 2020
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#29
totally off-topic, but your username, OP, reminds me of the subreddit r/iam14andthisisverydeep
Apr 18, 2020
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#30
NubbyCheeseking wrote:
checkmateohwait wrote:
thats called being a noob
At 1500
magnus carlsen blundered his queen at 2800
Well, deflation is one kind of erosion, this is when the wind blows/carries away small loose particles, for example sand particles on a rock in the desert.
You rating might Just have been blown away 
Confused-psyduck wrote:
Well, deflation is one kind of erosion, this is when the wind blows/carries away small loose particles, for example sand particles on a rock in the desert.
You rating might Just have been blown away
Rocks that weigh always fall at the bottom, because they are authentic. False rocks always can float in the air and never sandbagging unintentionally. Cheating became very sofisticated these days.
I have a friend who in chess.com never went below 1900 rating. OTB I always beat him repeatedly and repeatedly. But In chess.com I always lost against him. Suspicious... suspicious.... 
His account is still very old though.
Since I learnt that, I take it more seriously when I play vs Chessmaster than when I play in chess.com. Playing in chess.com is mostly because I don't have Chessmaster on my smartphone. I wish one day they publish an android Chessmaster edition, by the way.
p8q wrote:
Confused-psyduck wrote:
Well, deflation is one kind of erosion, this is when the wind blows/carries away small loose particles, for example sand particles on a rock in the desert.
You rating might Just have been blown away
Rocks that weigh always fall at the bottom, because they are authentic. False rocks always can float in the air and never sandbagging unintentionally. Cheating became very sofisticated these days.
I have a friend who in chess.com never went below 1900 rating. OTB I always beat him repeatedly and repeatedly. But In chess.com I always lost against him. Suspicious... suspicious.... His account is still very old though.
Since I learnt that, I take it more seriously when I play vs Chessmaster than when I play in chess.com. Playing in chess.com is mostly because I don't have Chessmaster on my smartphone. I wish one day they publish an android Chessmaster edition, by the way.
Actually, no, it doesn't work like that. The only kind of rocks that can float are from the family of igneous rocks (formed after lava cooled). For example pumice, which is a pyroclastic (extrusive) igneous rock, it forms When lava that was ejected from a volcano cools extremely fast. Because it cools extremely fast, the hot vapours can be trapped inside, and as it becomes a rock some of the vapour escapes (leaving those little holes on the rock), but a part of those vapours remain "trapped" inside. So, in part Because If this air trapped inside the rock, pumice can float, and this is a genuine rock!
Also, rocks that float can not be "sandbagging", Because sand is what we Could call a kind of sedimentary rock, it is the ramins of rocks that were broken down due to denudation (weathering + Erosion), and sedimentary rocks do not float.
But anyway, we Could say that your friend Could be like a pumice, he is full of air (understand bulls..t) and thus can float!
How does Covid-19 effect ONLINE games
Apr 18, 2020
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#35
Unintentional sandbagging.
I won’t forget that one anymore. Before this interesting thread I lost games. Not anymore. Iam sandbagging. Unintentionally that is. Not loosing. Nope.
I won’t forget that one anymore. Before this interesting thread I lost games. Not anymore. Iam sandbagging. Unintentionally that is. Not loosing. Nope.
Apr 19, 2020
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#36
When Coronavirus broke out and everyone suddenly had to be home, it suddenly became harder to win games. I took it as a challenge and started trying to become a better player. :D
Jul 7, 2020
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#38
p8q a écrit :
im14andwhatisthis wrote:
A couple of days ago I was rated at 1400. Today I hit rock bottom at 1100, but I still feel that the players are really good at that level. Probably around same level as the 1300s. My rating fell dramatically as I played when I was sleep deprived, but still it is not going up. I then played a couple of games on [another site -- VP], where my rating is 1700. Did not lose a single game... So what's going on here? Anybody else experiencing this?
Beating lower rated people is much harder than beating higher rated ones, because lower rated players cheat more often.
Higher rated people don't cheat so often because they are afraid of losing their accounts by fair play. So, there is a cheat obstacle there if you want to raise your rating from that low.
Lower rated players don't care if they are caught cheating, because their games and account are not so valuable. Because they don't care to lose their accounts they are not afraid of cheating often.
Usually I was around 1500 in rapid and beated above 1400 players very often. On purpose I lowered my rating resigning all matches in the first move until I became lower than 1100 rating. Just for the fun to see how I grow up again. Most of the times It was impossible to beat 1100 rated players. Impossible.
I checked that in lots of the games I played against lower rated people have an accuracy of no less than 98%, 1 inaccuracy, 0 mistakes, etc. And when I played higher rated ones their accuracy is 94%, 7 inaccuracies a couple of mistakes, etc.
And a rematch with low rated players is always a cheat. I never play rematches for this reason. Once I played against 1200 player: in the first game he was 86% accuracy, 10 inaccuracies, 5 mistakes 3 blunders. For the next three rematches he suddenly was 99.9% accuracy, 0 inaccuracies, 0 mistakes, etc. Better than Magnus Carlsen.
Happy to read this post !
I am used in playing bullet between 1400 and 1500, and when i decrease to 1200 around, thats a nightmare to recall my 14++ 
And i feel that yeah, theres a lot of cheaters at this level...
p8q wrote:
im14andwhatisthis wrote:
A couple of days ago I was rated at 1400. Today I hit rock bottom at 1100, but I still feel that the players are really good at that level. Probably around same level as the 1300s. My rating fell dramatically as I played when I was sleep deprived, but still it is not going up. I then played a couple of games on [another site -- VP], where my rating is 1700. Did not lose a single game... So what's going on here? Anybody else experiencing this?
Beating lower rated people is much harder than beating higher rated ones, because lower rated players cheat more often.
Higher rated people don't cheat so often because they are afraid of losing their accounts by fair play. So, there is a cheat obstacle there if you want to raise your rating from that low.
Lower rated players don't care if they are caught cheating, because their games and account are not so valuable. Because they don't care to lose their accounts they are not afraid of cheating often.
Usually I was around 1500 in rapid and beated above 1400 players very often. On purpose I lowered my rating resigning all matches in the first move until I became lower than 1100 rating. Just for the fun to see how I grow up again. Most of the times It was impossible to beat 1100 rated players. Impossible.
I checked that in lots of the games I played against lower rated people have an accuracy of no less than 98%, 1 inaccuracy, 0 mistakes, etc. And when I played higher rated ones their accuracy is 94%, 7 inaccuracies a couple of mistakes, etc.
And a rematch with low rated players is always a cheat. I never play rematches for this reason. Once I played against 1200 player: in the first game he was 86% accuracy, 10 inaccuracies, 5 mistakes 3 blunders. For the next three rematches he suddenly was 99.9% accuracy, 0 inaccuracies, 0 mistakes, etc. Better than Magnus Carlsen.
I've been playing chess for ~4-5 years and I think my ratings should be ~1200 but strangely when I play blitz/rapid I struggle to move my rating up consistently and the only way I can get my rating up is to play against bots. And chess.com has sent me 2 messages about one of my oponnents violating the Fair Play policy. So maybe that's why it's so hard to improve my rating.
Jul 7, 2020
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#40
one thing I noted was that an influx of "proper" players - e.g. for an online tournament version of a local or national f2f tourney can give false readings. One of our better national players joined another site for a national tournament arranged there. His Elo grading is >2200, but he joins as a 1200. He beat me (surprise, surprise), and I dropped 88 points.
If you blunder queens move 3, you fall for obvious traps, etc.
That's my guess