Chess.com rating is rigged?

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MarkGrubb

The coin flipping is normally done using 'fair coin'. They are specially minted. You can get them from specialist suppliers of maths and scientific equipment. I believe they are quite collectable and worth several times their face value.

eric0022
Martin_Stahl wrote:
Vrx8 wrote:
notmtwain wrote:

I think you are mistaken. 

By your theory, flipping coins is rigged too. You don't get heads, tails, heads, tails.

You get the same sort of streaks you see here at chess.com. 

How? I am not talking about my own experience, like i said multiple time in the post you should check your own and random people's account winning and losing. It is always the same pattern. Even your account has the exact same patter I mentioned above, 3-4 win then 3-4 lose. And literally no win - lose - win - lose

 

Even in real life you get streaks. At my club I can get a winning streak against a similarly rated player and the next session, barely manage a win. Other times we may be more even.

 

It has nothing to do with the site's pairing algorithm. It's already complicated enough, that for them to add additional criteria to the pairing logic to try and elicit some addictive response is nonsensical.

 

Mine was more dramatic. I lost to a player 0-4 on a particular week. The following week I returned with a 3-0 win over the same player.

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canadian_rt

You see what you want to see. I'm just gonna say that. If you want to blame the fact that you lost 3 games in a row because the pairing or rating system is rigged go for it. Losing has a physiological affect on you as much as winning does. You are basically trying to say every person is going to play like they have no feelings at all and it's purely dependent on skill.

blueemu
Vrx8 wrote:
notmtwain wrote:

I think you are mistaken. 

By your theory, flipping coins is rigged too. You don't get heads, tails, heads, tails.

You get the same sort of streaks you see here at chess.com. 

How? I am not talking about my own experience, like i said multiple time in the post you should check your own and random people's account winning and losing. It is always the same pattern. Even your account has the exact same patter I mentioned above, 3-4 win then 3-4 lose. And literally no win - lose - win - lose

In a ten-game series, you should only get win - lose - win - lose - win - lose - win - lose - win - lose once out of every 1024 tries. And you would get the reverse, lose - win - lose - win - lose - win - lose - win - lose - win another once out of 1024 tries. All of the rest of the time (1022 out of 1024 tries) you would get streaks of varying lengths.

The problem is not the chess.com pairing system. The problem is in your expectations. You don't know how randomness works.

geogeogeo3628

To me it is obviously rigged. I have starter med accountd and everytime I get above 1200 before starting to lose.

 

Them I have the tame parterna as described here. Long winningstreaks against weak players and losingstreaks against great players. I Lost inte rest cause of this to be honest. 

JoeLovesCoco
notmtwain wrote:
Vrx8 wrote:

THEORY

I stumbled across this post https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/is-chess-com-slightly-rigged and nobody seems to pay attention to what user Quiksilverau is saying, what he basically say is that you don't really get matched with opponent with the same rating as you, meaning that there is a hidden rating that is not shown to the user, he complained about how you get winning streak & losing streak all the time.

PROOF

I don't really ever pay attention to when I win and lose, but after I pay attention to it what he says seems to be true, I DO GET winning and losing streak, all these long I thought that I was just tilting but it's really not, after you lose certain times you get matched with opponent with lower skill rating than you to get winning streak again. You might even want to check your archive now. You almost never get win - lose - win - lose - win - lose streak which is the logical pattern when you play with someone matching your skill. You mostly get 3 - 4 win and then 3 - 4 lose pattern, you don't even have to check your own, check ANY profile here. The proof is everywhere

WHY?

Now you might think why chess.com is doing this, the answer is because it gets the user very addicted, this hidden technique has long been used in online games with rank especially fps games, the winning streak makes you want to play more and more, while after losing streak you just thought that you are tiling and come back next day.

Why is this bad? It hinders player skill growth, playing with absolutely terrible opponent and playing with opponent out of your league the next second is not going to make you progress better.

Important

this is just all a theory, i would very like to be disproved with proofs, if what I speculate is true, I am leaving chess.com because of it's terrible system that doesn't really get you anywhere. Keep in mind this is intended to be a healthy discussion, thanks.

I think you are mistaken. 

By your theory, flipping coins is rigged too. You don't get heads, tails, heads, tails.

You get the same sort of streaks you see here at chess.com. 

well put

sndeww
geogeogeo3628 wrote:

 Long winning streaks against weak players and losing streaks against great players. 

That's... how it's supposed to work. If they're stronger than you then they obviously are able to beat you more than you can beat them.

Sred

Some people seem to think that the chess.com ratings are something chess.com made up arbitrarily. No. This is a proven mathematical tool with solid theory behind it. If you have a "feeling" that they are rigged, you just have bad intuition about how randomness works (we all suffer from that to some degree).

Roryslosh168

It absolutely is not 100% honest chess. If you can't pick up on that after 50-100 games there isnt much hope for you.

lightning_man2000

bruh

 

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Roryslosh168 wrote:

It absolutely is not 100% honest chess. If you can't pick up on that after 50-100 games there isnt much hope for you.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/discussions-about-cheating

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