chess.com should make it possible to us to block blitz / bullet

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RedGirlZ wrote:
dk-Ltd wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
dk-Ltd wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
RedGirl, you are right, but I am talking about the player not being allowed to unblock, of course.

ur seriously suggesting that chess.com makes a mechanic where u can set a timer for how long a time control is blocked for u. How would the site even develop that it makes no sense. just don't queue up for bullet or blitz if u dont like it, why do u need such a detailed mechanic to stop u from playing it, I don't think any humans that impulsive.

you don't have as much testosterone as we do and that's probably why u can't probably understand why a male might be that impulsive in sports or games.

What in the world are you on about. So you're saying women can't be impulsive? 

they can, but usually not for sports or games. I think testosterone plays a role in this. Being impulsive is not good anyways and thus, no reason for getting angry or something (cause u sounded like).

How does testosterone play a role in impulsivity, if u can explain.

Just my opinion. I feel like testosterone motivates us more to win and sometimes, we can't control that well and become impulsive. Apart from my opinion, the part on motivation in wiki (which I just searched) seems to also be somewhat inline with how I feel. I am quoting below from wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone. The thing is that if someone is motivated for the wrong reasons (if any reason can be called wrong), like lets say rating, then he(more like imo)/she can become impulsive.

 

Motivation

Testosterone levels play a major role in risk-taking during financial decisions.[63][64] Even in an intellectual activity such as a chess tournament or a final examination, prior testosterone levels can accurately predict which individuals will be motivated to do their best

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TATTERED_TORN wrote:

testosterone.. impluse... you ever see Serena Williams or Maria Sharapova play tennis? srsly man or those UFC chicks  hoo lee sshheeeet

yea, UFC chicks are totally going for it and without any fear

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wanmokewan wrote:

What aspect of blitz and bullet make you happy?

The short time. I play blitz when on the train or even when in the toilet, just to kill the time without being serious.

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Well, once they (the addicted bullet players) feel the temptation to play bullet (but can‘t unblock it) they will either create a new account here or on a different site.
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RedGirlZ wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
RedGirl, you are right, but I am talking about the player not being allowed to unblock, of course.

ur seriously suggesting that chess.com makes a mechanic where u can set a timer for how long a time control is blocked for u. How would the site even develop that it makes no sense. just don't queue up for bullet or blitz if u dont like it, why do u need such a detailed mechanic to stop u from playing it, I don't think any humans that impulsive.

I am not talking about me, I have the control. I am talking about people who are addicted - chess.com is full of them, playing hours and hours every day, with all the problems that addicted people have. I am working with addicted people in a rehab clinic since 20 years, I know what addiction can do to people. It is a serious issue, believe me.

Many things wrong with that. 

 

1. I never said I was talking about u. I was talking in general. 

2. Addiction in chess? to a specific time control on a website? 

 

Seriously u have got to be joking me. next you'll say that people should put locks on their computers so they don't go on them for more than 5 hours a day, "it's addicting!!!"

Obviously you don't have problems to get addicted to bullet, this is fine, good for you. But if you ask around you will see that there are a lot of people around having a lot of problems with excessive bullet / blitz. We have to ask the people here. GM Gormally was honest about his problem, and he asked chess.com to block him. But he is not the only one.

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RedGirlZ wrote:
dk-Ltd wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
RedGirl, you are right, but I am talking about the player not being allowed to unblock, of course.

ur seriously suggesting that chess.com makes a mechanic where u can set a timer for how long a time control is blocked for u. How would the site even develop that it makes no sense. just don't queue up for bullet or blitz if u dont like it, why do u need such a detailed mechanic to stop u from playing it, I don't think any humans that impulsive.

you don't have as much testosterone as we do and that's probably why u can't probably understand why a male might be that impulsive in sports or games.

What in the world are you on about. So you're saying women can't be impulsive? 

Look, we are talking about playing hours and hours without making a break, even not to eat, to go the WC, to drink, to sleep. Some people play even 24 hours without a break. Although this is probably an exception, I would say that playing 12 hours without a break is something normal for some players, and playing 6 hours something normal for a lot of people. I know that some people can deal with bullet, even if they are playing exclusively this time control. It seems that there are also people able to deal with moderate consume of heroin, cocaine or crack. But the danger to get addicted is there.

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TATTERED_TORN wrote:

testosterone.. impluse... you ever see Serena Williams or Maria Sharapova play tennis? srsly man or those UFC chicks  hoo lee sshheeeet

Okay, I forgot that they are woman too. :-) (just a little joke Serena / Maria, I am big fan of you!).

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eric0022 wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:

Perhaps you know this. You played again almost the whole knight bullet, you are frustrated, and promise to yourself never to play bullet again. But in the next day / week / month you do it again, and you are again frustrated. 

I think the users should have the option to block blitz and bullet for a certain time that they can themselves stipulate. One month, six months, one year. I would click the one year button, wait one year, and click it again. 

I know a guy who sees a strong relation to playing bullet and consuming drugs. He told me that the feeling is similar, and playing a lot of bullet (and playing bad) is a signal that he is in danger to begin to consume hard drugs again. For him would be probably great to give the option to switch off at least the bullet. 

Do you also have the impression sometimes we need some help from chess.com to deal with bullet-addiction? I heard already other people here telling that they cannot always deal with it. I can even imagine some people stopping playing online chess completely to prevent get more and more addicted to bullet.

 

Back then I did not wish to start bullet for fear of addiction and exposure to not-so-good habits in chess games. As time passes, however, and due to my friends playing bullet also, I ended up following suit as well, and here I am, writing this as a bullet player.

 

I have been on both sides of the 'fence' before, so I can relate to the differences between the modes of games. The unusual thing is, my overall game play across all time controls has generally improved because of bullet training, for some unknown reason.

I believe you. It is also the reason why I tried bullet, to be able to play fast my opening repertoire, to react fast and almost automatically to my opponent. It doesn't work to me, though, I think the danger to play impulsively and not be able to stop a playing session is to high. The next day I am okay again and can say no to bullet, but as long as I am playing I am behaving like a bullet-junkie. Scary. Did you have also these times where you simply couldn't stop playing?

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eric0022 wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
eric0022 wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
wanmokewan wrote:

What aspect of blitz and bullet make you happy?

Blitz I don't like at all: if I win a game, I want to go on playing, if I lose, I want to go on playing. I think I like blitz to test a new repertoire or to text my tactics, but I am just very bad in such time controls.

 

Often I like to test the efficiency of my sacrifices and tactics in fast-paced games, which may be refuted in games with plenty of time leeway, but more difficult to get refuted in bullet.

 

Now that (on a per move basis) each game in bullet charges me at least 0.7 seconds instead of 0.3 seconds (I have no idea why, but I am very sure I make my moves in 0.3 seconds even though the system registers my timing as mainly 1 second), my prowess in bullet has dropped and I cannot afford to try out these ideas as time becomes very limited.

Funny that you are so much stronger in blitz than in bullet. This seems to be common. 

I had problems with my mouse when playing bullet, today I saw that a piece of cat hair was trapped in the optic. Great to play bullet with an erratic mouse.

 

Not exactly though. The ratings are not exactly true indications of my playing strength; I am equally bad in all time controls.

 

Bullet requires you to make decisions abruptly. There is simply little time to spare for any thoughts. Moreover, as you noted, mouse problems, and perhaps connection issues as well, become increasingly significant as the time controls decrease.

"Bad" is a subjective word. I feel the same with my 15something, but the 11somethings think I am a rather stroong player.

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RedGirlZ wrote:
dk-Ltd wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
dk-Ltd wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
RedGirl, you are right, but I am talking about the player not being allowed to unblock, of course.

ur seriously suggesting that chess.com makes a mechanic where u can set a timer for how long a time control is blocked for u. How would the site even develop that it makes no sense. just don't queue up for bullet or blitz if u dont like it, why do u need such a detailed mechanic to stop u from playing it, I don't think any humans that impulsive.

you don't have as much testosterone as we do and that's probably why u can't probably understand why a male might be that impulsive in sports or games.

What in the world are you on about. So you're saying women can't be impulsive? 

they can, but usually not for sports or games. I think testosterone plays a role in this. Being impulsive is not good anyways and thus, no reason for getting angry or something (cause u sounded like).

How does testosterone play a role in impulsivity, if u can explain.

RegGirl, you are proving that women can be impulsive, so you won the discussion :-)

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Hmmm, I am afraid you don't know much about game addiction. Our rehab clinic in Switzerland has several people with serious game addiction. Game addiction  is classified as disorder by WHO. Game addiction is described as a pattern of persistent or recurrent gaming behaviour so severe that it takes "precedence over other life interests".

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42541404

You don't have to inject stuff in your body to be addicted.

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RedGirlZ wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:

Hmmm, I am afraid you don't know much about game addiction. Our rehab clinic in Switzerland has several people with serious game addiction. Game addiction  is classified as disorder by WHO. Game addiction is described as a pattern of persistent or recurrent gaming behaviour so severe that it takes "precedence over other life interests".

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42541404

You don't have to inject stuff in your body to be addicted.

U can be addicted to games, but as if u can be addicted to a CERTAIN section of a game. That's what Im arguing 

You are probably very young, I guess, you just don't think much before you post something here, am I write? You wrote above that "Chess is just a board game. sure a lot of people really want to play a specific game because they enjoy it, and might do it over work or school, or study, but that's not the same addiction that people have when addicted to drugs. It's not hard to stop yourself from playing games etc." 

So, you didn't say that people can be addicted to a certain section of a game. You said that "It's not hard to stop yourself playing games etc". Please stay with the facts. And perhaps you should begin to think at last some seconds before posting something.

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If you want to stop playing blitz and bullet there's a little thing called willpower. You know playing these isn't helping your chess so why play it? Personally I became addicted to speed chess but I knew it wasn't helping, so the only speed chess I play nowadays is crazy house and bughouse, both of which have actually helped me with my tactics and board vision.
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Gruber86 wrote:
If you want to stop playing blitz and bullet there's a little thing called willpower. You know playing these isn't helping your chess so why play it? Personally I became addicted to speed chess but I knew it wasn't helping, so the only speed chess I play nowadays is crazy house and bughouse, both of which have actually helped me with my tactics and board vision.

I almost never play bullet, only sometimes blitz, and mostly daily or rapid. But if I play bullet, than I can see how people can get so badly addicted to it. You know, I know that most people think that addiction can be easily overcome by willpower. Things are not that simple, though. But in one point you are right: if somebody feels that bullet and blitz will expose them to a dangerous situation, they should use common sense (and willpower) to start playing. The problem is that not everybody get addicted - like alcohol.  I can imagine some people playing bullet from time to time, able to stop after a few games. If somebody wants to know if he belongs to this category of player, he has to take the risk and try, perhaps getting addicted. 

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It would be nice if some of the really addicted players will come here to tell us their experience and opinion about the topic.

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I asked GM Daniel Gormally to join our discussion. 

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RedGirlZ wrote:

I'm an adult sir, but you're a manchild.

Did someone mention manchild? I hold my hand up! let me through! wink.png

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Such an option won't work. It would disable the option to play here, but then when the feeling gets too strong they just to to *some other site* to get their kicks there.

 

Thus it would only drive people away from this site in the end.