Chess.com Violating Federal Cyberstalking Laws, RICO Predicate

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TicTacticToe

First off, I want to firmly state that I am in possession of more than enough evidence for my claims and accusations in this post. If this isn't explained or resolved, then I have sufficient motivation to contact my local field office (FBI) with said proof. The crimes of this site could amount to a RICO. Predicates are under Title 18, stalking.

Forewarning: some aspects of this post are undoubtably read/seen as absurd, and yet its veracity is unwavering. It began with the awareness of microphone access and it progressed/escalated to specific accounts (unprovoked) harassing me.

It had first appeared on my radar when I noticed that my computer's microphone indicator would often flip on whenever I launched this website and initiated a game. The sinister aspect of this situation: this website's access to my microphone was in spite of my device's permissions clearly denying access.

I triple checked, reset the permission denial, and would enter/exit the website to capture evidence that this was indeed happening. 

Bypassing my device's microphone permission denial would constitute illegally breaking into my device and placing me under surveillance:

 8 U.S.C. 2261A 
(2)with the intent to ... or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, uses the mail, any interactive computer service or electronic communication service or electronic communication system of interstate commerce, or any other facility of interstate or foreign commerce to engage in a course of conduct that—

(B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of paragraph (1)(A),

shall be punished as provided in section 2261(b) or section 2261B

SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2261A)

I would continue playing chess despite this, with my physical microphone slider switched off in order to counteract it. I have a dual-screen setup, so while I'm playing on my main screen, the second screen usually plays music from YouTube or my preferred music app. 


Now, it is understandable that cheating is an elusive epidemic on this website. Despite various employees touting "Harvard statistician cheat detection algorithms", I had viewed a YouTube video about Chess.com's cheat detection mechanisms: where Danny Rensch claims they can "check your other devices for cheating". It is now deleted, as this admits blatant cyber criminality and contradicts the strength of their purported Harvard statistician level cheat detection.

It is said that "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, and three times is enemy action".

Maybe a year later, (my rating had peaked around 1980s, maybe 1984) while playing, I was viewing a video about a certain movie character on my second monitor: I weirdly got matched with an account of the same name. This movie character is a spy.

I had attributed that to coincidence, but things got much weirder when I began receiving spam challenges from an account named "Agent". Then, my next two opponents were named "Shakennotstirred-007" and another account referencing this obscure spy character. 

Once again, three times is enemy action.

Multiple direct references to my other screen, in a short sequence, only makes logical sense if they were accessing more than just my microphone. This aligns with comments from this site's staff.

Perhaps they don't realize that they are violating the law and maybe they just need a refresher.

If this post is ignored or deleted, then I will be sharing a copy on Reddit and my Twitter (over 10,000 followers and with millions of views this quarter). Hoping for a swift explanation.


Thanks!

Alramech

That was a lot of words to prove and to say nothing. Stop being cringe and "threatening" to contact the FBI or - god forbid - share to your Reddit and Twitter (oh the horror, please don't do that). Just do it if you're so sure of yourself.

But we know you won't be contacting the FBI or any legal counsel. Plenty of people posts walls of text claiming that they have some magic, legal bullet to attack Chess.com. But every time, people seem to not actually do anything.

Not to mention, if you did have legitimate legal concern - posting on the forums is not the correct place. You would need to contact Chess.com directly. This is all bark and no bite.

BryanCFB

@TicTacticToe: I am a bit naive with these things. Why would Chess.com be harassing/spying on you? I apologize if I missed the reason in your original post.

TiredTactician

banning cheaters or other bad actors is more important than some petty legal trifles. happy.png

TiredTactician

if chess.com spys on people it is obviously allowed because chess.com has a terms of service and essentially the person has agreed to it.

Martin_Stahl

The only place in the site that would access your microphone is the Classroom feature.

BigChessplayer665
Doves-creek wrote:

i had a friend that got banned from chess.com and kept making new accounts but kept getting banned, on one account he didnt chat or play games or anything like that, but it was an experiement to see if they were tracking him. what happens a few hours later? he gets banned supposedly for ''violating their sportsman policy''. so yes chess.com DOES violate cyberstalking federal laws.

They can track ip I think

BigChessplayer665
Doves-creek wrote:

still a violation. lol

Depends I think tracking threw ip isn't in alot of countries

AgentSEALTeamSixWarrior

Oh my

654Psyfox

nov04-inactive
TicTacticToe wrote:

First off, I want to firmly state that I am in possession of more than enough evidence for my claims and accusations in this post. If this isn't explained or resolved, then I have sufficient motivation to contact my local field office (FBI) with said proof. The crimes of this site could amount to a RICO. Predicates are under Title 18, stalking.
Forewarning: some aspects of this post are undoubtably read/seen as absurd, and yet its veracity is unwavering. It began with the awareness of microphone access and it progressed/escalated to specific accounts (unprovoked) harassing me.
It had first appeared on my radar when I noticed that my computer's microphone indicator would often flip on whenever I launched this website and initiated a game. The sinister aspect of this situation: this website's access to my microphone was in spite of my device's permissions clearly denying access.
I triple checked, reset the permission denial, and would enter/exit the website to capture evidence that this was indeed happening. 
Bypassing my device's microphone permission denial would constitute illegally breaking into my device and placing me under surveillance:

 8 U.S.C. 2261A (2)with the intent to ... or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, uses the mail, any interactive computer service or electronic communication service or electronic communication system of interstate commerce, or any other facility of interstate or foreign commerce to engage in a course of conduct that—

(B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of paragraph (1)(A),

shall be punished as provided in section 2261(b) or section 2261B

SOURCE: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2261A)

I would continue playing chess despite this, with my physical microphone slider switched off in order to counteract it. I have a dual-screen setup, so while I'm playing on my main screen, the second screen usually plays music from YouTube or my preferred music app. 

Now, it is understandable that cheating is an elusive epidemic on this website. Despite various employees touting "Harvard statistician cheat detection algorithms", I had viewed a YouTube video about Chess.com's cheat detection mechanisms: where Danny Rensch claims they can "check your other devices for cheating". It is now deleted, as this admits blatant cyber criminality and contradicts the strength of their purported Harvard statistician level cheat detection.
It is said that "once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, and three times is enemy action".
Maybe a year later, (my rating had peaked around 1980s, maybe 1984) while playing, I was viewing a video about a certain movie character on my second monitor: I weirdly got matched with an account of the same name. This movie character is a spy.
I had attributed that to coincidence, but things got much weirder when I began receiving spam challenges from an account named "Agent". Then, my next two opponents were named "Shakennotstirred-007" and another account referencing this obscure spy character. 
Once again, three times is enemy action.
Multiple direct references to my other screen, in a short sequence, only makes logical sense if they were accessing more than just my microphone. This aligns with comments from this site's staff.
Perhaps they don't realize that they are violating the law and maybe they just need a refresher.
If this post is ignored or deleted, then I will be sharing a copy on Reddit and my Twitter (over 10,000 followers and with millions of views this quarter). Hoping for a swift explanation.

Thanks!

uhhhh sure I guess whatever you think

HonestHufflepuff

@Shakennotstirred-007 and @Agent?

654Psyfox
Doves-creek wrote:
654Psyfox wrote:
 

bro i cant stop laughing. lol

I knew I had to post this image when he threatened to share this on reddit.

BigChessplayer665

When you threaten something like this you don't post on forums who's going to take you seriously 😅

BISHOP_e3

DiscipleOfKeres

There's no way this guy isn't trolling. Filing RICO charges against chess.com? Absurd (and hilarious).

Have you tried taking it up with tech support?

Velocity

it's possible, but don't put it on forums, and don't threaten social media, just do it! if you're correct you'll get loads more attention on twitter and reddit(?) than on forums... @TicTacticToe

ElMiistii

First of all, the creator of this thread has every right and reason to post here. Most threads are monitored, so it's an easy way to get noticed by chess.com. Secondly, he may be sharing to invite similar experiences by other chess.com players, if any of you have them.
That said, as an SE for over 30 years, one of the original Agile implementers, creator of the first PC-based client-server system for a Fortune 500 Company, and system architect with a 99% success rate, I will add my opinion of the post. Whether it's RICO or another statute, the fault of chess.com software by design or an unintended side-effect, whether the app has been hacked or not... it doesn't matter. Obviously, something terribly wrong has happened to the creator of this thread.
Here's some advice:
First, I would contact an attorney who specializes in internet software security requirements and internet law. If that's too expensive, call your local law school and ask the department head who would know a senior student or recent graduate who's interested in the events you listed. Law schools keep track of their graduates, so that's a good place to start. Ideally, a senior student would be interested in helping you for free because it would make an excellent research paper and the student might earn extra credits.
Secondly, the FBI is swamped, so the reply you're hoping for might never come. But you could go to your local police station and talk to the police chief. He's the guy or gal who knows the most about law enforcement professionals in your area. It may be a detective in the police department who writes a report and then it's escalated to the appropriate agency.
That said, I believe your story. It's weird enough to be true. I noiticed today, for example, the fonts in the chess.com chat box are totally screwed up on my display. Is that hacking or a chess.com SE who botched the code? I also noticed the scaling on the chess.com display doesn't work properly. Another code botch or a hacker? 
Finally, it wouild be both appropriate and helpful if the security experts affiliated with chess.com would take a moment and add their 2 cents here. That shed some light on this post and help the creator get a better perspective of what is causing the anomalies he's observed.
What I don't recommend is for the moderator to suggest submitting a bug report. Back when chess.com was smaller, it was usual to send email and receive a reply within 1 day from support. But ever since the website exploded with tons of newcomers, tech support requires a form. It doesn't work in Firefox. And what's the point of that anyways? All good trouble ticket systems support email. Making a user open a display and use a crummy text screen is just added steps in an already time-consuming process.
'nuff said!

WintermintP
ElMiistii wrote:

First of all, the creator of this thread has every right and reason to post here. Most threads are monitored, so it's an easy way to get noticed by chess.com. Secondly, he may be sharing to invite similar experiences by other chess.com players, if any of you have them.
As a SE for over 30 years, one of the original Agile implementers, creator of the first PC-based client-server for a Fortune 500 Company, and system architect with a 99% success rate, I will add my opinion of the post. Whether it's RICO or another statute, the fault of chess.com software by design or an unintended side-effect, whether the app has been hacked or not... it doesn't matter. Obviously, something terribly wrong has happened to the creator of this thread.
First, I would contact an attorney who specializes in internet software and internet law. If that's too expensive, call your local law school and ask the department head who would know a senior student or recent graduate who's interested in the events you listed. Law schools keep track of their graduates, so that's a good place to start. Ideally, a senior student would be interested in helpijng you for free because it would make an excellent paper and the student might earn extra credits.
Secondly, the FBI is swamped, so the reply you're hoping for might never come. But you could go to your local police station and talk to the police chief. He's the guy who knows the most about law enforcement in your area. It may be a detective in the police department who writes a report and then it's escalated to the appropriate agency. 
That said, I believe your story. It's weird enough to be true. I noiticed today, for example, the fonts in the chat box are totally screwed up. is that hacking or a chess.com SE who botched the code? I also noticed the scaling on the chess.com display doesn't work properly. Another code botch or a hacker? 
Maybe the security experts affiliated with chess.com should add their 2 cents here. That would be appropriate and help the creator get a better perspective of what is causing the anomalies he's observed.

While I wholeheartedly agree with a lot of this, we have to bear in mind that companies in general are far more interested in making themselves look good rather than actually doing the best jobs they can at their fields. The Cory Doctorow word comes to mind again and again and this is another perfect time to bring it up here.

I genuinely think that even though the OP was perfectly in the right in this case, the thread is bound to be taken down anyway for sake of political censorship rather than actually trying to learn from their mistakes in any capacity. I've seen it time and time again with European orgs and companies, and the rest of the world is already following suit. I genuinely think all of this is a deliberate attempt to shut him up rather than provide a good experience. Since when has this site ever cared about its userbase?

DiogenesDue
ElMiistii wrote:

First of all, the creator of this thread has every right and reason to post here. Most threads are monitored, so it's an easy way to get noticed by chess.com. Secondly, he may be sharing to invite similar experiences by other chess.com players, if any of you have them.
That said, as an SE for over 30 years, one of the original Agile implementers, creator of the first PC-based client-server system for a Fortune 500 Company, and system architect with a 99% success rate, I will add my opinion of the post. Whether it's RICO or another statute, the fault of chess.com software by design or an unintended side-effect, whether the app has been hacked or not... it doesn't matter. Obviously, something terribly wrong has happened to the creator of this thread.
Here's some advice:
First, I would contact an attorney who specializes in internet software security requirements and internet law. If that's too expensive, call your local law school and ask the department head who would know a senior student or recent graduate who's interested in the events you listed. Law schools keep track of their graduates, so that's a good place to start. Ideally, a senior student would be interested in helping you for free because it would make an excellent research paper and the student might earn extra credits.
Secondly, the FBI is swamped, so the reply you're hoping for might never come. But you could go to your local police station and talk to the police chief. He's the guy or gal who knows the most about law enforcement professionals in your area. It may be a detective in the police department who writes a report and then it's escalated to the appropriate agency.
That said, I believe your story. It's weird enough to be true. I noiticed today, for example, the fonts in the chess.com chat box are totally screwed up on my display. Is that hacking or a chess.com SE who botched the code? I also noticed the scaling on the chess.com display doesn't work properly. Another code botch or a hacker? 
Finally, it wouild be both appropriate and helpful if the security experts affiliated with chess.com would take a moment and add their 2 cents here. That shed some light on this post and help the creator get a better perspective of what is causing the anomalies he's observed.
What I don't recommend is for the moderator to suggest submitting a bug report. Back when chess.com was smaller, it was usual to send email and receive a reply within 1 day from support. But ever since the website exploded with tons of newcomers, tech support requires a form. It doesn't work in Firefox. And what's the point of that anyways? All good trouble ticket systems support email. Making a user open a display and use a crummy text screen is just added steps in an already time-consuming process.
'nuff said!

All fine and well as long as the OP does all this homework on their own time and dime and does not make any accusations until something is actually proven.

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