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I was wondering, when you type "good game" after a match, why don't some people reply and say "good game" back? Isn't it just good manners that you do reply?

Could it be that if you lost, then you opponent thinks he is so much better than you that he is entitled to nonchalance?

Some answer would be appreciated.

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i think you're reading way too much into it

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People here find saying good game as being arrogant. Like rubbing your nose in s**t. I only say good game when i win.

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i see. That makes some sense...

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I agree with Cubbie,there may be a million reason why they don't respond.

people might be so busy moving that all etiquette is going to the background. 

remember you don't know the ladies and gentlemen you played against.

if people don't respond to GG I don't care.

it is of course a human game and an interaction is kind of nice.

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Since people can't figure out that saying gg is the online equivalent to the customary handshake otb, we might as well just say handshake.

Someone else proposed this recently. If people are going to be obtuse we might as well go for it.

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Whoa -- just saying handshake automatically implies that it's reciprocated.  I don't know about you, but if someone walked up to me, grabbed my hand as it was hanging by my side, and forcibly engaged me in a handshake I'd find that to be the height or rudeness.

That's why I say "Hand extended in the offer of a handshake" to which the appropriate responses are "Handshake offer accepted, and handshaking commenced.", "Handshake offer declined" or nothing at all (same as declined).

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TheGrobe wrote:

Whoa -- just saying handshake automatically implies that it's reciprocated.  I don't know about you, but if someone walked up to me, grabbed my hand as it was hanging by my side, and forcibly engaged me in a handshake I'd find that to be the height or rudeness.

That's why I say "Hand extended in the offer of a handshake" to which the appropriate responses are "Handshake offer accepted, and handshaking commenced.", "Handshake offer declined" or nothing at all (same as declined).


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gambit2000 wrote:

I was wondering, when you type "good game" after a match, why don't some people reply and say "good game" back? Isn't it just good manners that you do reply?

Could it be that if you lost, then you opponent thinks he is so much better than you that he is entitled to nonchalance?

Some answer would be appreciated.


One data point is that it is very challenging to type anything at all in chat when playing from the mobile client.

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So if I can summarize what everyone said so far, you should say "hand extended in the offer of a handshake," but if you are the loser, this might or might not come off as arrogant...

Or if they just don't reply, who knows what their reason is...

Is this correct?

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TheGrobe wrote:

That's why I say "Hand extended in the offer of a handshake" to which the appropriate responses are "Handshake offer accepted, and handshaking commenced.", "Handshake offer declined" or nothing at all (same as declined).


By Jove, I think you've finally solved it.  Perhaps there's room for inclusion of degree of vigor, as the two parties may not agree on that.  "Hand extended in the offer of an enthusiastic handshake."  "Enthusiastic handshake declined, polite quick single-pump handshake counter-proposed."

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no, no, no. vigor is unilateral.

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Yes, firmness, length of handshake, amount of eye contact and degree of vigor should all be declared as a courtesy.

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Tell me first, where's that cyber hand been?

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Not quite; when practicing Korean martial arts, I found out that for a formal handshake, the left hand is placed vertically under the upper part of the right as a sign of respect and a demonstration that you are not concealing a weapon. An ordinary hand extended for a handshake can mean anything, and can even be dangerous. Therefore, the ideal thing to say at the end of a game out be;

"Right hand extended with elbow bent at a 140 degree angle so that it is not too close nor too far in the offering of a handshake, with left hand placed vertically under the upper part of the right arm, accompanied by 30 degree bow, with adjustment of the angle of the shoulder with respect to your height in relation to mine."

I would recommend keeping this phrase on the clipboard, since most players will leave in the time it takes to type it, but don't paste it too fast otherwise you may seems too eager.

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oinquarki wrote:

 but don't paste it too fast otherwise you may seems too eager.


Excellent point.  I'm sure handshake proposals proffered too quickly are the source of much misunderstanding and resentment.

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To get back to the point, I think we are talking about how to close a game in a cordial manner, whether you've lost or you've won.

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