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GnrfFrtzl
robbie_1969 írta:
Syd_Arthur wrote:

Hmm...It could be possible that Van Gogh was simply painting a scene of a starry night as he actually saw it, because he found it visually beautiful, and the intellectual contents are simply the projections of the person observing the art.

From his writings and letters, it seems his primary aims in painting were more about trying to capture the world as he saw it, and was entirely devoid of intentional symbology.

Yes this is also possible but it difficult to divorce oneself from the idea that there is a spiritual element to the entire depiction which has been directly and deliberately imbued into the scene from Van Goghs interpretation of nature.  Thus its not a mere projection from the viewers mind, it exists entirely independent from that. This type of interpretation is entirely absent from artists like Constable who was merely intent to imitate nature and painters like Vettriano who are intent to paint decorative art for dining room walls.

I love how the self claimed artists and critics are all going on about how to be open and look for every possibility, yet they flat out refuse that you can just paint, or write, or make music unintentionally, out of simple passion, and nothing else.
No, you damn thick skulls have to analyse the last stroke on a painting, and have to make the connection between how many lines a poem has and its authors personal life.
You're so ridiculous it's not even funny anymore.

GnrfFrtzl
robbie_1969 írta:
Syd_Arthur wrote:

So there were these people sitting around and eating potatoes...

and he painted a picture of them, no need for psuedo-proletariat interpetations.

Geez...next thing you know, the "Art Cogniscenti" will be telling us he had a foot fetish because he painted a pair of shoes.

Oh dear you seem unable to bring yourself to the realisation that Van Gogh deliberately set out to imbue his work in earthy colours to portray the very soil from which the potatoes were dug or to depict their fingers as those which look and feel as if they have toiled the soil. To suggest that these elements are entirely coincidental is quite ludicrous, they are quite deliberate. To suggest that we are imagining these elements because of a political bias is wired to the moon ludicrous.

Look at the Venetian masters then, whose paintings deliberately look like photographs.
Still no one talks about their hidden messages and symbolism, even though they've painted every single detail as close to being lifelike as possible.
I'm assuming you're familiar with 'My Name is Red' by Orhan Pamuk.
An interesting read for pretentious stuck ups like yourself.

RoobieRoo
kaynight wrote:

Get over yourself for gawwd's sake.

Sigh the thread is not about me and your rather transparent attempts to make it personal and bring it to the level of a tabloid newspaper when I have lifted your consciousness to previously unimagined lofty heights is quite futile.  I will not dumb down the topic nor will i use less expressive language because our Hungarian friend has an irrational bias against articulation.  If you want an airhead thread then start your own, painting by numbers or something similar.  To this thread your contribution has been negligible.  Perhaps its not the thread for you?

You know where the tone button is? well turn it up!

RoobieRoo

An interesting read for pretentious stuck ups like yourself.

I have been quite patient with you, its time to push the button on you.  From you i have learned nothing with the exception that you have an irrational bias against articulation.  You seem incapable of discussing a subject without making personal remarks. Adios.

Anyone else want a piece of Robbie?

RoobieRoo
kaynight wrote:

robbie: One day you are going to trip up over your superlatives. Just saying.

A painting by numbers thread awaits you K

RoobieRoo
kaynight wrote:

Should you ever aspire to be a painting " Master", I fear your surname would be Bates.

Why fight your gay fantasies K? just come out loud and proud.

Chicken_Monster

I can assure you I do not want a piece of robbie.

RoobieRoo
Chicken_Monster wrote:

I can assure you I do not want a piece of robbie.

Thankyou Chicken_monster, peace prevails and all is calm once more :D

RoobieRoo
kaynight wrote:

He has too much Tolouse, with so little Monet.

Sigh . . . .your poor long suffering wife.  I think you need to see the Big man student counsellor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-WGb56mYuA

cabbagecrates

The internet is odd. People do get wound up over things.  I think Robbie may be wrong on a lot of stuff, but that's ok, so might I be. Particularly with art, people interpret things in different ways.

I do remember reading a long spiel about the line 'Are we human, or are we dancer' by popular beat combo The Killers.  Lots of queries about the dancer or the dance, and grammatical problems.  In the end the writer's reply was something like "I'm the writer, and I'll write what I like, and people can make of it what they will", which seems fair enough to me.  Lots of art of all sorts is understood/misunderstood by people.  Some people liked Alf Garnett, and thought 'Till death us do part' was in favour of racism. It would never be shown now, even though it was mocking racism at a time when it was rife.

So we all make our own minds up, and maybe Robbie is right about some things, wrong about others.  No need to fight about it.  It's only art and opinions.

SharonCarter

Very well said cabbagecrates. Don't make me start another 'be friends again' thread....the last one was such a success.... :-D (please....)

kayak21
robbie_1969 wrote:

Anyone else want a piece of Robbie?

What pieces are left? Innocent

Note to self......Don't mess with Robbie or he'll paint you in a bad light. ;)

RoobieRoo
kayak21 wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:

Anyone else want a piece of Robbie?

What pieces are left? 

Note to self......Don't mess with Robbie or he'll paint you in a bad light. ;)

Hmm you can mess with Robbie no problem, Robbie actively encourages messing with him after all different thoughts are good for us.  What Robbie has is certain reservations about persons who cannot check their variations objectively and who get personal.  Let me illustrate.

Robbie I think you are talking pants because. . . (insert valid reason)

Robbie you are talking pants and you are a stuckup intellectual snob (which may be true but it does not begin to provide even a semblance of a reason)

The former I can accept and even welcome. The latter I must reject because it has a tendency to reduce discussion to the level of a tabloid newspaper and we end up simply trading opinions without understanding anything or even worse, getting personal.  Now I can get personal with Kaynight because he is Scottish and has the same cultural values albeit his are a little more tutti fruiti coming from the East rather than the West which everybody knows is the best. So when he calls me a slaphead or says that I am talking pants I know its never intended to be personal, it is the Scottish way, we have built a culture around making fun of each other.  The same however cannot be said of others.

RoobieRoo
kaynight wrote:

Ach, awa' ya bam, yiz Weegies dinna ken aboot culture.

Boost yah rocket yeh! an dont geez nane eh yer wash! We wuz Europen city o'culture.

RoobieRoo
kaynight wrote:
European City of bowf,mair like.

Awe naw man at least you can get a decent curry in Europes culture capital, Glasgow.  Try getting anything but jam and oatcakes in the windy city and yer goosed!

TheOldReb

I think y'alls  kilts are too tight .  Tongue Out

RoobieRoo
Reb wrote:

I think y'alls  kilts are too tight .  

LOL at least i have the legs for a kilt, Kayknight has two butchers pencils for legs!

RoobieRoo

can someone please post Masha and the bear for me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUfnNs152CQ

kayak21

Done!  I hope it's clean, I didn't watch it all before I posted it. Smile

RoobieRoo

Thank you kayak21 you've been hanging around with Conner McLeod too long and his obsession with mammary glands.  No semi clad ladies wiggling all they got in these videos, just Masha and her friends :D