Chess Frustration and Struggles - How do I deal with it?

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Hvidbergen

Hello everybody! - I've now taken a 4 day break (ever since i posted), and I find things to go way better now, once again. I'm once again doing tactics at the level i used to, and the loosing streak has finally stopped with a few wins! - Thank you to everyone who posted! This community is fantastic!

BigKingBud

Odd that your TT is 1745 but your highest rating is 1403 ???

Hvidbergen
BigKingBud wrote:

Odd that your TT is 1745 but your highest rating is 1403 ???

Yes, my tactical chess abilities far exceed my positional understanding. Keep in mind that Tactics level doesn't provide an instant win, you have to get to positions where tactics are available. In that sense, i should work more on my positional understanding. 

 

However, I still feel like TT 1750 still offers mating patterns which every aspiring chess player should know, and as long as i keep getting faced with basic 3 or 4 move long combination of game winning tactics, i feel like i HAVE to master these. But you are probably right, i should probably focus more on positional understanding and play at my level.

BigKingBud

Dude, ANYONE with a chess.com TT rating of 1750 would have a MUCH higher rating than you do.  Positional strategy is a big part of chess strength, it is half the battle, but NO ONE has a tactical understanding of 1745 and a live standard high of only 1405.  It really just isn't an option, and it makes no sense.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Have fun. Beat some patzers. And yes, take a small break (one week should be enough)

Hvidbergen
BigKingBud wrote:

Dude, ANYONE with a chess.com TT rating of 1750 would have a MUCH higher rating than you do.  Positional strategy is a big part of chess strength, it is half the battle, but NO ONE has a tactical understanding of 1745 and a live standard high of only 1405.  It really just isn't an option, and it makes no sense.

Perhaps you have no idea what you are talking about. You are clearly wrong, seeing as im 1405...

BigKingBud

You are barely 1400, a player that tops out at 1400 simply could not sit down at chess.com's TT and drive it upwards of almost 1800. It isn't an option.

AIM-AceMove

He has only like 30 games, maybe he can go 1500. You cant say to a person who wins 2 very first games here that thats his max rating. Also his tactic rating is now under 1700. I found out that tactic puzles here are easy combination or free pieces like up to 1500-1600. Then starts hard with no force moves. But sometimes when your rating goes up you are still receiving lower rated problems and when u fail 3-4 in a row you still get high rated problems. Also there are many thematic problems, maybe he is very good at some and bad at others so tactic trainer can throw you 10 on those which you are great and get ur rating up. Somehow i reched that way 2000. But i can fail in some 1800 rated and say for some 1900 that are very easy.

bobbyDK
BigKingBud skrev:

Dude, ANYONE with a chess.com TT rating of 1750 would have a MUCH higher rating than you do.  Positional strategy is a big part of chess strength, it is half the battle, but NO ONE has a tactical understanding of 1745 and a live standard high of only 1405.  It really just isn't an option, and it makes no sense.

not if you are lazy like me and only spent 10 seconds on each move on chess.com. on TT I spent up to 3 minutes on a move.

bobbyDK

bigkingbud: chess rating and TT points is too different things.

rating consist of a lot of things not only tactics.

if you play unsound opening. do not develop your pieces to the best squares and so on your tactic ability means close to nothing. also you opponent is also looking out for tactics.

also most tactics are shown twice if you fail and if you don't get it right second time you have a bad memory.

BigKingBud

But your(you Bobby specifically) basic chess ratings, and your tactics trainer score 'tell a story' that one is used to reading on here.  In other words your scores look completely legit. 
You can't be a 1405 player(highest rating after MANY games), and much lower scores on other chess modes after many games(like the OP) and have a TT of almost 1800, it just isn't an option.  Somebody cheated or something.
If a player can rank up to almost 1800 on chess.com's TT, their score would be AT LEAST 1600ish(and probably more like 1700). 
Mainly because of the timer, if there wasn't a timer maybe.  But that timer is what makes or breaks your score(it judges your skill based on 'how long' it takes you to solve the problem.  It then calculates your performance based against all the other hundreds of thousands of players doing the TT).  Your chess.com TT score will mirror you actual playing score(strength) 'almost' perfectly.  If is well balanced, and fine tuned to do so.
There could be some exceptions(obviously some players may spend all their time only learning tactics), but not here(in the case of the OP).  you cant be a high 1300 rated player, popping off an 1800 TT score, it isn't an option.

hhnngg1
BigKingBud wrote:

But your(you Bobby specifically) basic chess ratings, and your tactics trainer score 'tell a story' that one is used to reading on here.  In other words your scores look completely legit. 
You can't be a 1405 player(highest rating after MANY games), and much lower scores on other chess modes after many games(like the OP) and have a TT of almost 1800, it just isn't an option.  Somebody cheated or something.
If a player can rank up to almost 1800 on chess.com's TT, their score would be AT LEAST 1600ish(and probably more like 1700). 
Mainly because of the timer, if there wasn't a timer maybe.  But that timer is what makes or breaks your score(it judges your skill based on 'how long' it takes you to solve the problem.  It then calculates your performance based against all the other hundreds of thousands of players doing the TT).  Your chess.com TT score will mirror you actual playing score(strength) 'almost' perfectly.  If is well balanced, and fine tuned to do so.
There could be some exceptions(obviously some players may spend all their time only learning tactics), but not here(in the case of the OP).  you cant be a high 1300 rated player, popping off an 1800 TT score, it isn't an option.

Sorry, but you absolutely could be 'only' 1405, but have a TT rating of 1800+.

 

I used to think like you did - tactics = everything. Then I got a rude awakening (for awhile) as my rating did almost nothing despite no matter how many tactics I did.

 

Just watch chessnetwork's (NM) youtube blitz chess games against 1700-2000 rated opponents. He rarely uses tactics requiring greater than a 3 move combo. I can see almost every combo he unleashes, and quickly. I'd guesstimate you'd need a tactics rating of <1400 to realistically play the vast majority of his tactics.

 

It's, however, the SETTING UP of the tactics and the sound positional moves he makes that are responsible for this. The execution of the tactics are almost trivial in comparison. 

 

I think you mistake 'knowing about chess concepts' with proper execution. Every 1400 player knows the basic concepts like "don't move a piece twice in the opening", "castle early", "Ns before bishops", but they still make repeated violations of these simple rules repeatedly. (I know because I still do it sometimes!) If you can't properly execute these principles repeatedly, and accurately, even supertactics won't save you as you won't even get a chance to use them.

kitty-chang

be a member use an engine may be.

bobbyDK

breakingbud

If you look at my highest rating 4-5 years ago when I was a club player my TT rating and my online rating was  higher I was addicted to chess and worked 24-7 if I could on finding the best move. I was writing down candidate moves for each game and so on. looked at game explorer.

Now I just move in matter of seconds and that means I blunder (even pieces now) and that means losing.

 

Now I am very casual about it

BigKingBud
hhnngg1 wrote:
BigKingBud wrote:

 

Sorry, but you absolutely could be 'only' 1405, but have a TT rating of 1800+.

 I used to think like you did - tactics = everything.

 

I don't think tactics = everything.  That is RIDICULOUS, and an assumption.
  Chess.com's TT uses a scoring system to equate a player's 'basic' overall playing strength.  The TT calculates your strength based against the time it takes players of higher strengths to solve the puzzles.

Hvidbergen
BigKingBud wrote:
hhnngg1 wrote:
BigKingBud wrote:

 

Sorry, but you absolutely could be 'only' 1405, but have a TT rating of 1800+.

 I used to think like you did - tactics = everything.

 

I don't think tactics = everything.  That is RIDICULOUS, and an assumption.
  Chess.com's TT uses a scoring system to equate a player's 'basic' overall playing strength.  The TT calculates your strength based against the time it takes players of higher strengths to solve the puzzles.

How do you even think that makes sense? - Tactics Trainer is obviously only giving you positions where concrete winning moves are available. Whenever i go over my own OTB games, there are rarely game-winning moves. Therefore i need positional understanding and play, before tactics becomes available to me. So in NO WAY does TT directly indicate actual whole game playing performance.

 

But thank you for saying there must be some cheating involved, since it is "impossible". I've done a couple of livestreams earlier, where i do TT live! - You should keep your eyes open for that, perhaps you will find that im legit, and just shit at positional play compared to tactical play. In the same way as im a good jazz trombone player, but suck at player soft classical music. In one field, you can be good at some things, but terrible at others.