Chess in 1 Lesson!!!!!
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Number two does in fact state it very simply, and to think I am reading book after book, thanks for the insite
Unfortunately, I don't see how your description of chess helps me decide which chess move to make. When it comes down to it, Grandmasters are only different from you and me in one way: They're better at deciding which chess move to make. So unless you have some advice on how to decide which chess move to make, I don't see that you've helped me.
Well it is a very eloquent post, but I take it that your two points are:
1. You win by checkmate.
2. Play good moves every turn.
Well these are helpful tips, but are they not common sense?
Osbuckeye, you seem to prefer this post to your books. Surely the books go into detailed positions and so forth; that is a lot more helpful in my opinion.
Loomis wrote: Unfortunately, I don't see how your description of chess helps me decide which chess move to make.
Let me elaborate for you and flesh my idea out further. What I presented in my first post was what could be called chess theory, but it is now my responsibility to show you how to put this into chess practice. As we study chess, we will learn chess elements like space, time, and force. We will also learn how to effect these elements to make them more or less powerful. First off, we'll go through a simple endgame position.
Easy, easy you all say. "I've played over games in tactics books before." What's my point? I have watched games where the player in Blacks position thinks they have a tremendous game, because they are not keeping the whole aim of chess in mind. So many beginners look to the side of the board to see how they are doing!! The pieces off of the board aren't the ones that matter!!!! What truly matters in chess is how you are applying the individual and collective power of your pieces toward the end goal in chess, which I stated in idea #1. To find a move during a chess game is indeed quite a trick! Even the grandest of grandmaster is still seeking what the lowest patzer is seeking, and that is how to win. If you study the mechanics of chess, learning about the elements such as time, space, and force, and then learn about how each piece can be used to it's maximum potential, then you will see real chess improvement. The point I'm trying to drive home to everyone is that the lesson I have presented is the cohesive glue that will hold the other ideas together. Let me leave you with one more example. In the opening of the chess game, everyone tells you that the centre is very important. Ok......why? The control over the centre is important because it allows you to extract the maximum potential out of your pieces. If you allow your opponent to control the centre, the life of his pieces is much easier, and he is that much closer to obtaining a decisive advantage of force because he is already devaluing your pieces. I believe it was Botvinnik who played by the rule that if you can find no immediately obvious move, to make the situation of your worst piece better, however slight.
Ok.....um. Everything I said still applies, even with Qe7. Good cook to my non-problem position. You're missing the whole point of my post. I am a class player who may miss things I'm not looking for, not some Master. I do still have good advice for anyone willing to pay attention. I'm not trying to be some encyclopedic know-it-all, just a guy who's studied some chess and found some helpful hints.
In the opening of the chess game, everyone tells you that the centre is very important. Ok......why? The control over the centre is important because it allows you to extract the maximum potential out of your pieces. If you allow your opponent to control the centre, the life of his pieces is much easier, and he is that much closer to obtaining a decisive advantage of force because he is already devaluing your pieces.
Wow... who said that? Oh yes, it was me, a few posts ago. If you had happened to read, perhaps you may have caught it. In the opening, I personally would suggest to the novice the move e4. This move fights for centre control, and also increases the scope of some of the other pieces. What this does for the novice player (or any player, pothead or otherwise), is to begin the battle for the decisive majority of force. Like I stated in the chess lesson, (you may want to read that too if you haven't), you must have a majority of force to win the chess game. You cannot checkmate the opposing king if his defensive forces equal that of the attacking forces, so your 'go for mate?' out of the opening would be as successful as your arguement, which would be a pathetic failure.
May 12, 2008
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The greatest truths are simple.
When asked, Kasparov said, "My style of play is to always look for the best move."
Thank you people who are actually giving positive feedback. It is curious how even when someone tries to offer up their own chess findings so that others can hopefully learn easier, that folks are so quick to try and disassemble it. If all the posters looking for chess improvement would take my words to heart, they would improve much quicker. Just because it is seemingly simple, people take it for granted and think me for a fool. How about this for your little nuggets dear readers. Go to a professional sporting event and watch the warm-ups. Hmmm. Why would a world class athelete be practicing simple layups, or shooting pucks into an empty net, surely they've got it down by now? FUNDAMENTALS ARE KEY. You want to know why so many chessplayers get stuck on an improvement plateau? Because too many of them trip on their own ego, that's why.
---Time for an update---
It is important that I make one thing very clear to all of the readers so that you understand.
The point of this post is not to find the answer of "what move is best?". The ideas that I put in the original post were meant to be a guide, something to keep you focused on why we make chess moves. In current Grandmaster practice, the players have exactly the same problem that we have on the novice level. They will find a position that hits the 'everything equal' evaluation, and will be trying to find a way to proceed. Sound familiar? I've hit the wall so many times my face imprint is on it. The Grandmaster has at his disposal a gigantic store of base knowledge, a warehouse of technique for him to reference. The modern Grandmaster combines all of the elements of chess. There is no such thing as 'best move' and the player just wins. So far to date, if each player just plays 'best move', then there is a draw. Modern chess is very dynamic. By dynamic I mean that Grandmasters know how to accept temporary positional weakness so that they can extract the maximum force from their pieces. You cannot win by a solid position alone! You must try and upset the balance of force in your favor! Is there a formulaic method to do this.............NO!!!!! If you find a way, I'm sure there are some Grandmasters who would like your help. The professionals are still working on finding 'best move'. That is what opening theory is! What I am trying to get through to you is that the Grandmasters are seeking to do what I have stated in #2, so they can reach the situation I described in #1. I made this forum so that you readers knew what question you are looking for answers for. So many people read and read, and study and study, but never sit down to think 'why?'. Mr Grandmaster from Russia says this move is fantastic and is winning so I will play it. Ummmmmm...... why? Prove it Grandmaster, show me how your idea, technique, or move gets me closer to how I win a chess game and I will implement it.
Munchies wrote: Ok.....um. Everything I said still applies, even with Qe7. Good cook to my non-problem position. You're missing the whole point of my post. I am a class player who may miss things I'm not looking for, not some Master. I do still have good advice for anyone willing to pay attention. I'm not trying to be some encyclopedic know-it-all, just a guy who's studied some chess and found some helpful hints.
Trying to defend yourself after such an incredible blunder just makes you look even more ridiculous. Stop trying to give advice and go read some books. I guarantee they will improve your game, even if you already know the two theories of the op.
~TO
TonightOnly wrote: Munchies wrote: Ok.....um. Everything I said still applies, even with Qe7. Good cook to my non-problem position. You're missing the whole point of my post. I am a class player who may miss things I'm not looking for, not some Master. I do still have good advice for anyone willing to pay attention. I'm not trying to be some encyclopedic know-it-all, just a guy who's studied some chess and found some helpful hints.
Trying to defend yourself after such an incredible blunder just makes you look even more ridiculous. Stop trying to give us advice and go read some books. I guarantee they will improve your game, even if you already know the two theories of the op.
BTW - Just stick a rook where the Queen is and your puzzle is what you wanted.
~TO
Very Constructive 
Munchies, fair play for giving it a go.
Have learnt in the past that there are quite a few tossers on board here, who just like to make everyone think they are intellectually superior, by putting everyone else down.
I used the so called "expert" from the World of Warcraft, South Park episode the other day, and I use it again here.
What we are quite often dealing with are greasy slovenly slobs who haven't seen daylight since they had Broadband connected, not some great visionaries on life.
Keep up the good work and don't let the $%&"£*€s, get you down.
good job!
TonightOnly wrote: Stop trying to give advice and go read some books.
Hmmm. I wonder why Erik and the gang might have a problem getting people to pay to be on this site? Here's a thought. If you don't want advice, don't come to my forum. Also, if you are going to post your noble opinion, at least try and grasp what is going on before you correct everything. The POSITION I put up was to express an idea. It was NOT a chess 'puzzle', as I actually told the first poster who 'corrected' my mistake. Yes... QE7# I'm a retard, here's your Scooby snack. Maybe instead of trying to play Chess.com Editor, you guys could do something productive like I am trying to do, which is help other chess players learn. Surely with all your outstanding wisdom, you could help us become better players. I personally have read some books. I actually own over 80 of them. I read some of them, and they gave me enough skill to draw a national master in a simul. Small accomplishment, I know, but it may help you to realise that the other people on this site aren't just drooling monkeys, we are smart people. So how about you find another hobby other than trolling the forums for people to correct.
good job
Munchies> If you don't want advice, don't come to my forum.
This is "General Chess Discussion", this is not your forum. Anyone may comment. If you want a private place to post, chess.com provides you with blogs and groups.
Munchies> Good cook to my non-problem position. You're missing the whole point of my post. I am a class player who may miss things I'm not looking for, not some Master. The point of this post is not to find the answer of "what move is best?".
The eternal struggle of improving chess player is "What move is best (for me)?" The ability to spot 95% of mate-in-one's doesn't require master-level strength... maybe a 1400 USCF rating (the average rating) or so is enough. For you, or anyone else who missed the mate in one, consider spending a few minutes of tactical study each day, because that sort of study tends to reap real dividends. There are so many good options available like the chess.com Tactics Trainer (random real-game problems), Chessmaster (lessons & problems by motif), PCT (problems by motif), CT-B (problems by motif), Winning Chess Tactics (lessons & problems by motif), or Polgar (problems by motif).
Munchies: "Let me elaborate for you and flesh my idea out further. What I presented in my first post was what could be called chess theory, but it is now my responsibility to show you how to put this into chess practice."
Ok, so it sounds like this will be chess in two lessons. :-)
Munchies: "As we study chess, we will learn chess elements like space, time, and force."
Oh, sounds like I will need at least 3 more lessons (assuming that each of space time and force can be learned in one lesson). What does this bring the grand total to? Chess in 5 lessons?
Munchies: "Go to a professional sporting event and watch the warm-ups. Hmmm. Why would a world class athelete be practicing simple layups, or shooting pucks into an empty net, surely they've got it down by now? FUNDAMENTALS ARE KEY."
I don't believe that your original post is analogous to the fundamentals of sport. If I were to translate your original post to, say, basketball I think points 1 and 2 would translate roughly:
1) The way you score a basket is to have superior control over the ball and get it through the hoop.
2) When you are on the court, every thing you do should be aimed at putting yourself in position to get the ball through the hoop and keeping the defense from stopping you from doing so.
On the other hand, I would say the fundamentals are shooting, dribbling, passing, teamwork, etc. These are the useful drills that you see anyone serious about the game from novice to professional work at on a daily basis.
Munchies: "The point of this post is not to find the answer of "what move is best?"."
Other than the Kasparov quote, your rant about "best moves" is the only time in this thread the word "best" is used. The rant seems to be a fight with some imaginary foe.
I have had essentially the same thoughts you have expressed in your points #1 and #2 of the original post. I imagine lots of people have. There is something nice about having these thoughts, they come with a feeling of understanding something about the game. And I applaud you for wanting to share that with the community. But, and I am not trying to disassemble what you've written (rather, I'd prefer to assemble it into something useful) the ideas #1 and #2 don't help me in any practical way to decide what chess move to make.
You probably also rile people up with your topic title "Chess in 1 Lesson!!!!!". It's a bold claim, especially with so many exclamation points. It's also patently false that what you've written in your post is enough to understand or play well the game of chess since it permits the simple question "How do I do that?".
Chess in one lesson is ment as he will post more posts here that come to the fact how to make better moves.
And for anyone who starts reading from his first lesson post to his last on this topic, it is chess in one read = chess in one lesson.
maybe i just don't have enough knowledge of chess to see why a lot of commenters are trying to down someone for sharing information. i learned a long time ago that anybody can learn anything from anyone. no matter how small or vague it may seem. this post was not to teach you how to play the game, but how to theorise the game. what ways to think, what mindset to have when playing. maybe it is a different perspective of looking at the game that some lower level players need. it gives a purpose to why you should move your pieces; not tell you where to move them. i am 25 years old, i have an iq of 140, my ratting is aprox. 1150. if i found something in this post helpful does that mean i'm a "pothead"? or does it mean i'm incompetent, or lazy? i have played chess off and on for 11 years, and have tried to learn from every source possible. if this post does not help you, or interest you, then why comment? if you have waisted your time reading this post why waist more time writing a comment? munchies has written this post to give some insight on the theory of playing the game so that someone may get some positive information, and improve their game. does that deserve criticism?
^^ the problem is, is this is Bullsh*t philosophy wrapped in layers of marketing salespitch.
-- the entire post can be summed up as:
"the object? = win....How? each move should "move toward the object". -- circular huh?
I may describe the aims of Judo as thus:
1) The aim is to score an Ippon -- which can be done so by a throw, submission, or hold down.
2) therefore, all movements and actions should be aimed at producing said throw, etc.
So, for all those who have never done judo before, I urge to to know take up a class, as this knowledge will enable you to put up a good fight.
^ clearly, if you go to a lession, you will still suck...Why? because this "insight" is not useful.... What I should of done, would of been to write something far more useful to you. Such as the basic principles behind a throws like "Morote-seio-nage", "O Goshi", "De-Ashi Barai" etc. at least that way, you would have entered the dojo with some theorectical knowledge of said techniques.
Hello my fellow chess players. I am putting up this post because recently I have seen a few posts in the forums about the evergreen question, "How do I improve at chess so I can beat the snot out of the quivering wimp that is my opponent?". What I present here is chess in one lesson. I want you to read carefully, maybe print it out so you can keep it for future reference, as it does take a little time to fully soak into the spongey brain matter. Now, I must add a disclaimer on here. I KNOW that 95% of you will read what follows, and promptly chalk me up as an early entry into the chess madness hall of fame, home of many a bumbling idiot. But, I have faith that a select few of you will see things clearly, and reap the benifits of this new sight. So here it is, chess in one lesson.
1. The game of chess is won when the opposing king is attacked with more force than he is defended with, and he cannot relieve himself of check in his turn cycle. - That's the part you really want to let get deep down in your brain and get comfy.
2. The purpose of EVERY move is to upset the balance of force in ones favor to obtain the decisive advantage in force. - Now you're probably wondering why my handlers haven't been able to quick-tie my wrists and sedate me.
What I have just put in front of you to ponder is the answer to the great 'why?'. This is the beacon of light to find your way through the chess maze. Instead of looking through chess books, or watching videos, and just shrugging your shoulders and letting out a little, "that's nice". Every chess thing you ever learn must be tied back to these two core ideas. If you don't want to just ape moves, keep these two core ideas close to you, and never let them go.
Thank you for reading. Any questions you may have can be directed to my messages, as I have limited days a week to check the forum and respond.
Mr Mike