Chess is like reciting

I didn't say you were.... lol

Infact I didn't even mention you.

The real reason why the Germans need a new language is because when they speak they sound like something is wrong with their throat! Maybe too much phlegm! 

I could say the same about Dutch or Gaelic. BTW, I really hope we all will English speak in the future, but then they should stop call it 'English'.

If you get a higher rating then you may see that chess is not about memorizing openings. At my rating, I don't even study openings. The opening for me is getting all of my pieces out to playable squares while watching for mistakes from my opponent. The variety of positions I encounter from basically playing about four openings is amazing! If someone is just a beginner in chess, and then makes general statements about chess being just a game of memorizing the openings and endgame with no skill involved, it makes no impact on those of us who have played the game for years and years. It's a very difficult game to comprehend, and as you advance in rating it becomes a fascinating test of your ability to understand, imagine, concentrate, and achieve.

In French, this is called a "cliché".

Maybe this can convince you that German is a beautiful language, or at least one you can speak without coughing ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwyGSNLpop0

Oh, sweet irony! This video is blocked in Germany. 

Lolwut.

EVERY possible opening? Every endgamed played millions of times These are the stupidest chess players I've ever even heard of.

Just using your common sense should tell you all you need to know about this quote.

100 years ago chess went through a period where many of the leading GMs of the day, who were the top ranked players in the world (and not some chess n00bs from a website you pulled), thought that chess was dead. Their theory was that "all logical openings" were known, and thus with good memorization and play, the games were easy draws.

This turned out to be entirely wrong. Why?

Because they all had very closed minds to chess relative to modern day GMs. If an opening move didn't conform to the general chess principles of the day, it was labeled bad and not explored. Years later, it was discovered that lo and behold, there were hundreds of moves and openings that were all much sounder than originally thought.

And years from now, a new way to play will be "discovered" and a whole new modern era of play introduced.

That is where the beauty in chess lies; there is no "good" or "bad." The ideas for what is best are continuously changing with the times. Memorization to become the perfect player is impossible.

You gotta love Mozart though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C78HBp-Youk

It literally translates into: Lick the interior of my ass. But then again, Mozart was Austrian.

Are the OP and his supporters on drugs?  Or are they just too stupid to know better?

Memorization is one of the first things you give up when learning the Royal Game well.

Take up Grand Theft Auto (GTA), if Chess lacks the thrills you seek.

OK, one.

I already said that I do NOT memorize openings, and will NOT no matter how high or low my rating is.

And two, they're saying that the openings have been memorized by people as a whole, as in A will remember all these openings and B will remember that.

But the main point is, people (NOT me) often memorize openings, and that makes chess too boring as you're just playing out written moves instead of making your own. I hope that clears up the confusion.

And stop with the flaming please.

Because seriously, I'm not gonna read it if all you do is pointless insults.

And even though there are so many openings, people are still playing memorized moves, which makes it depend a bit less on skill, since you already "know" how you "need" to move.

Precisely, no, this is false.

It's not like those master that play the same moves over and over again only know the moves. They understand them. If you play the ultra-sharp line of opening XXX and end up in a vastly superior position because your opponent misstepped, you might still get crushed because you have no idea of what is going on.

And past some opening tricks, there is no memorization that will give you a huge advantage, let alone win you a game, at stronger level. You are on your own for the middlegame and the endgame, and there is no way to memorize those.

@Changgi: I bet all popular Chess variants (Chinese, Western and Japanese) suffer under the same problems. Or every strategic board game, where the first minutes are invested into positioning your units, before the actual game begins.

I've played the King's Gambit a million times, a Shogi player may have an affinity for the Yagura Opening ... still, every match is different, because in the middle game one cannot rely solely on his memory any longer. And if one were to try that, one outlandish move of mine would let his entire strategy collapse. Without any underlying strategic concept and the ability to spot subliminal weak points in your opponents defense, theory will just get you through the first 6-10 moves.

If chess is the way to brain enhancement, recite away. Chess.com is a convenient way to work those brain cells. Like exercise for the body, and expansion of the mind for focusing and decision making!

You really haven't been 'flamed' at all, Changgi.

You come to a chess site with chess players who have devoted years and years of their time enjoying chess, and you tell us that there is no skill involved in chess--only memory. And you don't even know how to play chess beyond the level of a beginner! 

Amusing. 

o.o

Hypocrite... You're just saying that my rating is low. You aren't using anything to back up your point. I though have a few things to back me up... It's like you don't have any point to talk and then start attacking the person at calling it hilarious... No offense intended.

Anyway, even if they understand the moves, they are still only making the written moves...

And again, my rating doesn't make a difference. Why could I only state my opinion if I get a high rating? I could say the same stuff when I have high/low ratings. I already said I play much better at Japanese chess...

Then let's hear all your opinions on every subject you don't understand! I mean, why not?

Yes, because they're clearly the best and they have the understanding why it's the best move!! 

The other extreme is a player rated at about 800 who has an encyclopedical knowledge of the French defense, but only up to the 5th move. This guy will go down in the middle game ... This shows that memorization isn't enough.

If it would be, there wouldn't be an appeal to play Chess anymore, right?

Well, I'm not so good at Western chess, yes. But Japanese chess is also chess.

You have quite a point there, TheBigDecline. But I'm just saying not saying that the memorized moves are bad, it's just that it makes chess loses the novelty somewhat, and things get more predictable than... well...

Overall, it seems that it makes it less fun. That's all I'm trying to say. And it's just an opinion. Don't get all angry at that. I've never said that I must be right to begin with.