Chess is not an art

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FlowerFlowers

perhaps then just as there is an art of war ... there is an art to chess.

theoreticalboy

I think that settles it.  Let's return to more important matters.  Chess is also not:

- a pre-novel example of magic realism

- the name Alekhine gave to the birthmark on his right buttock

- an item of clothing worn by members of Peruvian marching bands

- a love song

- the dying words of an industrial magnate murdered; but by whom?

TheGrobe
tonydal wrote:
Musikamole wrote:

The word tempo is used in both music and chess.

Chess also has rhythm.



They both also have motifs.


And intermezzos (Zwischenzug).

gorgeous_vulture

Also, a crap musical

TheGrobe

Also: a type of pie.

FlowerFlowers

chess pie ************** mkyam

Atos

Chess is quite chessical and chessy.

Writch
pushwood47 wrote:

Now they are covering an object of veneration with ants. (big windup follows)

So if they covered a chess piece with ants, and got as much criticism, and had to withdraw it, would that be... (the pitch:)

en passe-ant?


BA-dum *psssssshhhh*

FlowerFlowers

if nothing else, chess, at least, inspires art :)
electricpawn

guitarzan wrote:

I get a kick out of your tastes in music, electricpawn. You might be surprised to learn I used to own that Mothers of Invention FREAK OUT album, and I had ABSOLUTELY FREE, too. I should have kept those - they're probably worth something today.i

BTW, I'm not putting down Johnny 'Guitar' Watson or his playing; I just think t's fair to analogize him & his music with a comic book when speaking of art, that's all. Some of those cartoon artists can really draw!

 

Fair enough Guitarzan. Zappa's one of my favorites, but I like just about anyone who can really play guitar.

fissionfowl
tonydal wrote:
guitarzan wrote:

You might be surprised to learn I used to own that Mothers of Invention FREAK OUT album, and I had ABSOLUTELY FREE, too.


I still do.


I thought you don't like Zappa...

Ricardo_Morro
ilikeflags wrote:

every 14 year old girl with a journal is a poet.


 Since you posted this shortly after my post, and since I was the only one posting had who claimed to be a poet, I must assume, ilikeflags, that your sarcasm was aimed at me. I have written about 300 poems and had about 40 published; also I have won several poetry prizes; I have also written 7 full-length verse dramas, 1 published, 4 produced onstage. So, while there are no credentials for being a poet, I have at least been called that by persons other than myself. And while I am neither a girl, nor 14, nor keep a journal, I can assure you that none of these things are disqualifications. By the time I was 14 I had already written a large number of poems, long lost ansd so not counting in the 300. I have never kept a journal, since I saved my writing for things I wanted other people to see, not for things I wanted to keep private. In my adolescence, for several years I was more involved with mathematics than with writing. During those years, chess was an arena where my interests intersected, the mathematical, logical side with the artistic side, spiced with competitiveness I was never short on. But then, I had already been heavily influenced by Plato: for me, logic and mathematics are steps the mind takes toward contemplating the higher forms such as Beauty and the Good, which is also the object of Art. The fact is that I have often found some of this contemplativeness and mystic rapture in chess, and for me this is one of its principal attractions.

trysts

^^Wow, a real poet! Virtually!Laughing

Atos

Hm... not that it matters much, but Plato wouldn't hold art or poetry to be on the same level as logic or mathematics. We don't know where he would put chess since he never saw the game.

theoreticalboy

Yeah when I was 14 I was a girl, too.  I still didn't fall for that Platonic forms nonsense, mind.

burandom
tonydal wrote:
Musikamole wrote:

The word tempo is used in both music and chess.

Chess also has rhythm.



They both also have motifs.


A human and a bear and a gerbil and a penguin and a turtle and a lizard and a vulture all eat and then excrete. They are all animals.

goldendog
Ricardo_Morro wrote:

Plato: for me, logic and mathematics are steps the mind takes toward contemplating the higher forms such as Beauty and the Good, which is also the object of Art.


Oh yeah? Then which is the finer thing: An eagle or the truth?

Atos

Writch
Wow, Atos found the Apocryphal Wizard of Oz chapter
guitarzan
Atos wrote:

 


Is brain surgery an art? I think it's just a hobby.