Chess is solved by quantum computers, so WHY PLAY???

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uri65

Sex is "solved" by science, doctors, books, movies.. Why do we still do it???

Hohenzollern

As someone already pointed out the same thing, 

We could also find, with the help of computers the absloute best lines, and angles to play for example Billiard and etc. and make a a robot to play it. So why would we play it then anymore? Cause it`s fun?

Franky2929

Chess has NOT been solved yet and IF it gets solved one day, as long as the cheating part will be encountered, people will always play chess because human brain will NEVER solve chess...and chess is a cool game :)

WGF79

Let's say one day the calculation from the opening and the endgame calculation (tablebases) meet and chess is "solved" - be it a draw or win for white. Then you have a kind of "perfect" line for white and black. You can memorize it, no problem. But what if someone deviates from it on move 7 and plays the 2nd best move ? The whole line becomes rubbish and you need to find the way to win/draw all by yourself from this point. What if they deviate on move 3 and on move 37 ? Or deviate a on every 5th move ? If you want to memorize every line and every perfect response after every deviation, a lifetime span will be too short to do that. So chess is not in danger by that. The danger for chess might come from cheating, when technology becomes smaller so that one can hide it in a contact lense for example.

F0T0T0
Vo1d3mort wrote:

Let's say one day the calculation from the opening and the endgame calculation (tablebases) meet and chess is "solved" - be it a draw or win for white. Then you have a kind of "perfect" line for white and black. You can memorize it, no problem. But what if someone deviates from it on move 7 and plays the 2nd best move ? The whole line becomes rubbish and you need to find the way to win/draw all by yourself from this point. What if they deviate on move 3 and on move 37 ? Or deviate a on every 5th move ? If you want to memorize every line and every perfect response after every deviation, a lifetime span will be too short to do that. So chess is not in danger by that. The danger for chess might come from cheating, when technology becomes smaller so that one can hide it in a contact lense for example.

If I have a mate in one threat and there is one way to block it I will find lines after the block only and won't consider lines where my opponent doesn't.

As for the question...

A quantum computer is a basically computer that can store and process alot of data.

It uses the help of quantum bits which can store a lot more data than normal ones.

How do these q-bits work??

well do you know the schordninger's(is the spelling right?) cat experiment?

The result simply is that an object (say a cat) can be in two different states( like dead and alive ) at the same time.Only viewing such "superpositions" as they are called, is impossible since they break down to either one of the states.(that's why when you see the cat It is either dead or alive).

Q-bits work in the same way.

they are either a 0 or a 1.

Complex methods are used to use only the information cointained in the bits while letting them remain in a superposition.

So they can process exponentially more data.

n Q bits handle same data as 2^n normal bits.

Now you know that useless fact we get back to the point.

Since quantum computers don't exactly exist right now commercially and are too costly and are too busy doing more awesome stuff,

I don't think quantum computers will be used to solve chess.

They only make it possible but they will take about a few years at minimum.

and no one has the time and money to do that.

Even if it does get solved no one will be able to comprehend and organise all that data so we will be playing chess because it is challenging...and still new.

InsanePlayer99

A better question would be : why do we even live even though we know we'll die sooner or later anyway?

Franky2929

Because while we live, we can play chess !!!

GSHAPIROY
macer75 wrote:
StMichealD wrote:
chiaroscuro62 wrote:

Except currently quantum computers are completely feeble.  My cell phone is a GM but quantum computers can't do elementary arithmetic. 

hey, they may not be able to do the basics, but they can solve super hard stuff

Then why haven't they figured out how to solve the economic crisis yet?

That is not about chess quantum computers

Irontiger
quadriple wrote:

(...) Since quantum computers don't exactly exist right now commercially and are too costly and are too busy doing more awesome stuff,

I don't think quantum computers will be used to solve chess.

(...)

Right now, quantum computers are few, exist only in the labs that try to improve them, and those "computers" are little more than multiplication tables from 1 to 5 times 1 to 5.

So, "awesome stuff", only if you need little to be impressed.

FanOfCarlsen

What do you know about chess and what do you know about quantum computers?? LOL
And who gave you this great news that quantum comps solved it?

schlechter55

I think there will never be a quantum computer.

kevsha77

People should push themselves in every way to be the best that they can be.And computers are not superior to humans.Where would they be without us? Some college students may be able to work out some math equations faster than their teachers but this does not make them superior! In the first Terminator movie, the cyborg thought he was superior until he got squashed in the end by a human useing another machine against him. Those red eyes looked a little desperate too me. hah!! That's why in the second movie that he came back on our side! He learned his lesson. Don't mess with the oxygen breathers; they will take you out.

tonightatsix

Are you asking "if you cannot be the best, why do it?"  How many things in life are you the best at that you keep doing them?

I play chess because chess is a challenge and it is beautiful. 

F0T0T0
Irontiger wrote:
quadriple wrote:

(...) Since quantum computers don't exactly exist right now commercially and are too costly and are too busy doing more awesome stuff,

I don't think quantum computers will be used to solve chess.

(...)

Right now, quantum computers are few, exist only in the labs that try to improve them, and those "computers" are little more than multiplication tables from 1 to 5 times 1 to 5.

So, "awesome stuff", only if you need little to be impressed.

getting improved so that they can take over the world if they had arms and legs is awesome enough for me.

KvothDuval

chess hasnt been solved...

schlechter55

EVEN if chess would be solved (it CAN'T), we would continue to play.

Because we are gamblers.

Chess is also Art, mind training (if you want , it is then Sport), and Science (because the best chess book has not yet been written...).

Phylar

So what if chess was solved. Plenty of people are still at beginner level when they could potentially be at GM level. Oh, that isn't likely? Guess chess isn't as close to being solved as some people might think.

eltodesukane

Quantum computer do not yet exist.  Their ability would be quite limited anyway.

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/The_Limits_of_Quantum_Computers.pdf

In any case, even if chess was solved, I would not know the solution myself.

G_Vinz

Because for the human players that rely on their brain solely, it can be very challenging games and addictive. So who cares with quantum computers

Escapest_Pawn

quan·tum

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noun
1.
quantity or amount: the least quantum of evidence.
2.
a particular amount.
3.
a share or portion.
4.
a large quantity; bulk.
5.
Physics.
a.
the smallest quantity of radiant energyequal to Planck's constant times the frequency of theassociated radiation.
b.
the fundamental unit of a quantized physical magnitude, as angular momentum.
 
 
Assuming the above is accurate (cut and pasted from dictionary.com)
 
What is a quantum compter?  One marginally better than the computer next to it??