Chess isn't a sport

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Pho_Lover

Just because something has an international federation does not mean it is a sport, nothing about a federation should make it a sport or not, I hope you aren't trying to say that Kickball isn't a sport, because there is no federation for that, therefore, this definition is flawed

crystal0192

Here is my definition (It is used by sportaccord)

A sport must

  • have an element of competition
  • be in no way harmful to any living creature
  • not rely on equipment provided by a single supplier
  • not rely on any "luck" element specifically designed into the sport.
crystal0192
Pho_Lover wrote:

Just because something has an international federation does not mean it is a sport, nothing about a federation should make it a sport or not, I hope you aren't trying to say that Kickball isn't a sport, because there is no federation for that, therefore, this definition is flawed

That isn't what I was trying to say but it is true then that it doesn't meet the IOC's criteria for a sport

Pho_Lover

wait what, Soccer is a sport but it is harmful to creatures because their natural enviroment is destroyed, Many sports involve leather balls, so they are 100% not animal friendly, once again your definition is flawed

Pho_Lover
crystal0192 wrote:
Pho_Lover wrote:

Just because something has an international federation does not mean it is a sport, nothing about a federation should make it a sport or not, I hope you aren't trying to say that Kickball isn't a sport, because there is no federation for that, therefore, this definition is flawed

That isn't what I was trying to say but it is true then that it doesn't meet the IOC's criteria for a sport

on the IOC's page they dont even list FIFA as a recognized federation, I think we should use my definition because you cannot prove that one wrong

crystal0192

The definition is nuanced but there are degrees of harm, for example, hunting would be harmful, but the manufacturing of chess pieces would not. You may be correct so I will rephrase it:

Actively harming living creatures cannot be central to the sport.

Pho_Lover

but Hunting is a sport, competitive hunting is physically and mentally demanding, more so than chess

Pho_Lover

Same with fishing

crystal0192

FIFA is recognized, that list my not have be complete.

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/federation-internationale-de-football-association

Pho_Lover

sorry, one sec, I made a club so we can use live chat and be quicker, anyone can join the club and we can continue the debate there

https://www.chess.com/club/chess-is-or-is-not-a-sport

crystal0192
Pho_Lover wrote:

sorry, one sec, I made a club so we can use live chat and be quicker, anyone can join the club and we can continue the debate there

https://www.chess.com/club/chess-is-or-is-not-a-sport

Prove me wrong, convince me that chess isn't a sport, that's what you want to do right?

Pho_Lover

yes

crystal0192

yes what?

Pho_Lover

yes, I want to prove that chess is not a sport

crystal0192

then do it

Pho_Lover

I am asking you to join the club so we can do the debate faster

Using forums takes ages

Pho_Lover
crystal0192 wrote:

then do it

I am doing that, you are throwing countless nonsense definitions at me and I am batting them down one by one, I am currently working on this one.

crystal0192

no, I dont join random people who I don't know's clubs, forums are fine. Also, everyone can see this debate.

crystal0192

r u still there

Pho_Lover

ok whatever, you are using a definition that is not official, but one you came up with, you will not let me do the same, if you were using the official definition, then like I just said, sports using a leather ball would not be sports, but you changed the definition, so now it is your own. I understand that the rules of this debate disallow using non-official definitions, so I will ask you to give me another official definition