Chess Rating vs. G.P.A.

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Kingstone1

 

    I am currently running a survey in order to prove a hypothesis I have that involves students grades and chess intelligence, or, in essence, ratings. For those of you who would like to aid me, please simply post G.P.A.'s and your chess rating( either on the site here or from rated tournaments you have participated, just please specify.) Any questions could be posted here, if needed, and I will be happy to get back to you on it.

                                                                Thank you in advance,

                                                                                            KF1


Michael_Sarmiento
I've made simple study on it and shows partial probability and tendency
Kingstone1
    Well my hypothesis is that there is the tendancy that intelligent students will have higher probabilities of being more intellectually acute in chess ratings. The problem is that I need a good sample size of people to back up my claim, and right now I have only a dozen. Also it's not helping that this study will need to be complete by Tuesday, so I'm sort of in the panic mode to search for as many as I can.
adam920
I think you're showing a false correlation between intelligence and GPA.  GPA has a LOT to do with effort...lot of smart (and lazy) students with lousy grades and average (but diligent) students with great grades.
TonightOnly
That is not true. I was very lazy in college and got off with great grades.
timmaylivinalie
3.0 and zero
Michael_Sarmiento

you could be bias in picking up your subject that way... unless you get the whole group... your were trying to correlate with chess intelligence.. right. There were bright and diligent students who's not well in chess and bright students who do well in chess, on the other hand there are students who where very lazy yet very good at chess and some lousy students who are not good in chess at all. It's true that GPA has lot to do with effort and I agree, general intelence that is but spicifically with chess intelligence, it's dependent on your subject if he/she know how to play chess.

People who play chess have different levels. GPA is an assessment of a person/student as a whole. therefore what ever results you will be having will always be impartial. I have a neighbor who did not even reach high school and yet some how good at playing chess. One best friend of mine was very deligent and study very hard but grades were not good enough. was even kicked out of school for failing on 2 subjects. My point is not undermining your hypothesis, but merely explaining that one cannot compare GPA with absolute correlation or tendency to excel in chess. That is why my results proves it partial since not all students know how to play chess. 

Inteligence to be corelated to GPA yes, but not specific to chess inteligence...

If you try to prove your hypothesis here in this site, your results will not be accurate unless you see their actual GPA results. But if you do it by seeing theirng their actual GPA results and chess ratings...then you know what i'm talking about.

Anyway good luck and may you prove your hypothesis unbiased. 2types of player here... humble and too proud, how would you know which is which. If your data is not accurate and cannot be verrified then your results wil be falsely interpreted. It's like working on a manipulated data therefore not valid at all.

When you test hypothesis, you must rely on facts or verifyable, observable accurate data.

God bless...good luck. 

 


Michael_Sarmiento

you could be bias in picking up your subject that way... unless you get the whole group... your were trying to correlate with chess intelligence.. right. There were bright and diligent students who's not well in chess and bright students who do well in chess, on the other hand there are students who where very lazy yet very good at chess and some lousy students who are not good in chess at all. It's true that GPA has lot to do with effort and I agree, general intelence that is but spicifically with chess intelligence, it's dependent on your subject if he/she know how to play chess.

People who play chess have different levels. GPA is an assessment of a person/student as a whole. therefore what ever results you will be having will always be impartial. I have a neighbor who did not even reach high school and yet some how good at playing chess. One best friend of mine was very deligent and study very hard but grades were not good enough. was even kicked out of school for failing on 2 subjects. My point is not undermining your hypothesis, but merely explaining that one cannot compare GPA with absolute correlation or tendency to excel in chess. That is why my results proves it partial since not all students know how to play chess. 

Inteligence to be corelated to GPA yes, but not specific to chess inteligence...

If you try to prove your hypothesis here in this site, your results will not be accurate unless you see their actual GPA results. But if you do it by seeing theirng their actual GPA results and chess ratings...then you know what i'm talking about.

Anyway good luck and may you prove your hypothesis unbiased. 2types of player here... humble and too proud, how would you know which is which. If your data is not accurate and cannot be verrified then your results wil be falsely interpreted. It's like working on a manipulated data therefore not valid at all.

When you test hypothesis, you must rely on facts or verifyable, observable accurate data. You don't even have data to identify you in your profile and yet you rely on trust that people will give you untarnished data.

 God bless...good luck. 

 


Cpesyna

Also, GPA varies widely school to school...a 4.0 at one school doesn't necessarily map on to a 4.0 at another harder/easier school.

Also, 3.6571 and 1407 (chess.com)

 


bignatx
adam920 wrote: I think you're showing a false correlation between intelligence and GPA.  GPA has a LOT to do with effort...lot of smart (and lazy) students with lousy grades and average (but diligent) students with great grades.

 yup yup


armiller
i suppose a chess rating has a lot to do with effort too...
RespawnsibleOne

Eh, probability. I am a high school dropout, I just started getting serious at chess and I wouldn't consider myself off to a bad start.

 

The problem that I have with the assumption that a G.P.A has anything to do with intelligence is that in order to get a high G.P.A you have to put forth effort in schooling. Bobby Fischer did not do well in school, he did not care.

 

Now on another note, yes a HIGH G.P.A. does require intelligence. But a low G.P.A does not require stupidity (in a sense of I.Q., yes I am a moron for not taking school serious but I am offended if someone takes me for dumb kid.) 

 

I believe a study like this would be a little off the wall and unreliable. I think you will find everything but solid results. While the results may show some sort of medium it will not prove anything at all. 

 

BTW I dropped out because I just didn't like school, I never did homework, I slept all day in class, and I stayed home atleast once a week. I passed all of my 9th grade OHIO proficiencies in 8th grade and this is while I had straight F's all throughout 7th and 8th, I was only passed through because it's actually impossible to fail middle school without being held back by parents. I was a good at tests I just could care less for waking up every morning and doing homework after school.


Skeptikill
TonightOnly wrote: That is not true. I was very lazy in college and got off with great grades.

 maybe you just had easy exams........could be a multiple of reasons.

i was even considered talented youth and yet i get average results all my life. Just never motivated or maybe every exam i did was really really hard.
jgoodman

The suggestions that it may be a faulty assumption that a higher GPA would correlate to higher chess ability are reasonable objections- I suppose that is why the survey would be an interesting one to conduct.  Help the man get his data to test his claim- any finding that is backed with some actual survey data would be better than the numerous speculations that are being thrown out here.


erik
GPA is generally a measure of effort. Chess rating is a measure of a specific accumulated knowledge and attention to detail. Not related.
RedSoxpawn
I have a c+ maybe B- GPA and my Chess rating is a FLAT F
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Maximus_Minimus
Mate they are not related. It has been a while since university but my rating is sub 1200 and I am a neurosurgeon.Smile
RedSoxpawn
Maximus_Minimus wrote: Mate they are not related. It has been a while since university but my rating is sub 1200 and I am a neurosurgeon.

I am defiantly going to you, I would rather have an average person prodding in my brain than a perfect person


flyingplant
adam920 wrote: I think you're showing a false correlation between intelligence and GPA.  GPA has a LOT to do with effort...lot of smart (and lazy) students with lousy grades and average (but diligent) students with great grades.

 I'm sad to admit this is my case. I'm intelligent, but some of my classes don't peak my interest as much as playing chess, hence my GPA suffers as I improve my game.