Chess Rules - Is it a draw? Rapid Game

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@TRextastic

I hope that you played chess in clubs and tournaments.

Have you not seen position where there are pieces and pawns, but dead equal and players are moving the pieces quickly, just to gain time and win on time?

 

Does it make sense to you?   

 

Can you say that the one person having few extra seconds  played better? should he win?

Will it be fair?    

That why Appendix  G Quick play in FIDE rules.

 

 

 

There should be rule  to fix and avoid bad time tactics, right.

 

 

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In a game, Top GMs like Kramnik didn't put his pieces properly and pressed the clock few times against  Anronian  . Aronian  time was running ... He could have claimed win for that, He was unhappy but played on....

Kramnik didn't feel sorry in heat of the game.  Kramnik is perfect gentleman but behaved strangely in time  trouble.  Aronian lost the game in second.

 

In lower level tournaments How do the players behave?

Assume

ending K +R  vs K +R

ending K + 2N vs K

it is a dead draw unless you are crazy, but that can be won on time.

 

Back to my game, I moved my rook on h file couple of times and he moved his rook in 6th rank, Since we were not writing notation, I can not prove arbiter that he is not making effort, but just trying to win on time, move his pieces here and there simply.

 

I knew, I could have gone for his pawn. but even after that I didn't have time win.

So I called the arbiter to claim a draw. He didn't understand the position & my claim and  didn't respond correctly.I don't blame him, it is not easy to come and understand in seconds.But here I behaved correctly accepted his decision and gracefully resign with a handshake. 

 

He should have allowed us to play postpone his decision. It happened in the previous tournament   phpzGmb8H.jpeg

where arbiter allowed us to play few moves, then ask my opponent, he accepted....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My opinion to avoid complications and make the arbiter job simple

1. Few seconds increment or delay.

2. Allow the players to play and see, then decide his decision about the claim.

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Note :My opponent is 1500+ fide rated player

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But the times weren't dead even. Your opponent had several minutes in a rapid game and you had nothing. So he has the advantage. And like I already said, that appendix isn't standard. It has to be stated at the beginning of the tournament that it will be used for it to apply. 

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muralidharan_aero wrote:

Note :My opponent is 1500+ fide rated player

So your opponent was an intermediate. Now, you should tell us your FIDE rating - if it's more than 300 points lower than your opponents, i'm not sure that the TD was incorrect to decline a draw).

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Cherub_Enjel wrote:
muralidharan_aero wrote:

Note :My opponent is 1500+ fide rated player

So your opponent was an intermediate. Now, you should tell us your FIDE rating - if it's more than 300 points lower than your opponents, i'm not sure that the TD was incorrect to decline a draw).

But none of it matters because I seriously doubt that the tournament stated that appendix G was going to be applied.

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In all honesty, the best thing you can do is forget about this whole mess. Complaining on here isn't going to get your rating points back.

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All is well thanks anyway  for your comments

 

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TRextastic is very cold in her comments I can understand why she is so!grin.png

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Am I supposed to be emotionally invested in this or something? I care about facts and logic. That's about it.

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TRextastic wrote:
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
muralidharan_aero wrote:

Note :My opponent is 1500+ fide rated player

So your opponent was an intermediate. Now, you should tell us your FIDE rating - if it's more than 300 points lower than your opponents, i'm not sure that the TD was incorrect to decline a draw).

But none of it matters because I seriously doubt that the tournament stated that appendix G was going to be applied.

Cheers...

If it is not mentioned or informed  the rule is not going to be applied

It can be  as per Fide rules, since there is no increment in this case rapid time control

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"Am I supposed to be emotionally invested in this or something?"

Well, when you repeatedly call someone a "sore loser," that's a good indication that you're emotionally invested.

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Pilchuck wrote:

"Am I supposed to be emotionally invested in this or something?"

Well, when you repeatedly call someone a "sore loser," that's a good indication that you're emotionally invested.

If someone says Carlsen's reaction after the match he lost to Karjakin was inappropriate and him being a sore loser does that make them emotionally invested? No.

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This thread should just die... the OP should've let this go approximately 30 minutes after the end of the game....

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The claim was perfectly right claim (off course not talking about resigning) , should given a draw or extra time (increment 5s or delay).

 

If arbiter can allow us play with extra time for both of us ex 2min , he can postpone his decision later

 

Everything Crystal clear in "Arbiters-Manual-2014.pdf" page 49

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Thanks all for your valuable comments.....................happy.png

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lol 2 weeks after...

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Some of friends asked what is meant by "Normal means" It may look funny but it is a very question.

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