I taught my seven year old son draughts, but he can't beat me at it. Connect 4 on the otherhand, he's very good at. Chess he says is boring. But that's probably because it takes up too much of my time and time that I should be spending with him.
chess vs. checkers

Any game where chance is not involved requires a skill. Thus checkers, chess and go seem obvious candidates. I have played against masters in all of these and what appeared a good position I was blown away. I am sure chess players of all grades have been in this position. It is almost magic where one move just destroys the position. I agree checkers is less complex, chess more and go the most.

I taught my seven year old son draughts, but he can't beat me at it. Connect 4 on the otherhand, he's very good at. Chess he says is boring. But that's probably because it takes up too much of my time and time that I should be spending with him.
Your comment doesn't make any sense. The first two games you played with your son. Then you said that chess takes too much time, time that you could spend have spend with your son.
Any activity where your son is not involved is time you're not spending with your son.

I don’t know if I should comment as belong to a club full of checker enthusiasts here. It is very difficult to become a checker grand master and checkers is as complex as chess. Unfortunately many do not understand the game and only view it superficially and with ignorance.
And no no matter what I say you will disagree.
One Checker GM I know has beaten someone over 200 times and still gets told he wins by luck. The harder we work and study the luckier we are. :-)
Not sure why checkers irritates some chess players so. It is a different game which requires different thinking and strategy.
So forget gamism and give respect that games other than chess exist, require skill and are equally as challenging.

I don’t know if I should comment as belong to a club full of checker enthusiasts here. It is very difficult to become a checker grand master and checkers is as complex as chess. Unfortunately many do not understand the game and only view it superficially and with ignorance.
And no no matter what I say you will disagree.
One Checker GM I know has beaten someone over 200 times and still gets told he wins by luck. The harder we work and study the luckier we are. :-)
Not sure why checkers irritates some chess players so. It is a different game which requires different thinking and strategy.
So forget gamism and give respect that games other than chess exist, require skill and are equally as challenging.
Checkers is solved that's why it is less complex than chess.

I’m not going to argue with you. Good night. Because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
BOOHOO, as soon as it gets tough you run away. Not everybody has smositonal understanding as I do.

I think the two games are both challenging. I personally prefer chess by far because of the visual appealness of the game and the variety of the chessmen moves.

I like both games. Just don’t understand why checkers annoys some chess players sooooo much. Why not harass backgammon, go or Shogi players. Only checkers gets the big stick from chess players.
Checkers has many variants also and that beings much depth to the game.

My father (and especially my grandfather) were successful Checkers champions; I, on the other hand, never really acquired this skill. In fact, this is one reason I decided to take up Chess. I clearly love Chess far more (and believe that the game is much more complex). However, I will note that both games are indeed strategy-based, and certainly can be competitive. For informal Checkers, I can beat most opponents that I play, but I still consider myself a "Chess person" - without a doubt. This is a cool forum topic, and I would like to hear other responses too
Checkers is way too simple. Little strategy and little tactical maneuvers and only two kinds of pieces. Chess has lots of pieces with different moves and values. Lots of tactical maneuvers. You also get to choose targets like king and other valuable pieces.
Checkers has no targets or valuable pieces.

Checkers is a fine game. It's simpler than Chess in terms of number of possible moves and positions, but that just makes the calculation and ability to look ahead all that more important.
And what about Chinese Checkers! Why doesn't that get any respect?
I'm joking, but only sort of. A game called Salta that is quite similar to Chinese Checkers once sported great popularity and big money tournaments. The most well known afficianado of the game was then reigning Chess champion, Emanuel Lasker. Lasker actually enjoyed many games. I have a book by Lasker about Checkers.
Any non-trivial abstract strategy game can be a great intellectual challenge. What separates Chess from all the rest is the breadth of analysis that has been performed on the game in its five hundred year history (in modern form) and the number of players who can contribute to the knowledge of the game.
The game of GO almost certainly beats chess in terms of how much the game has been studied over the centuries.
AlphaGO Zero invented some new theory in GO. I wonder if anybody predicted that. No doubt the GO community will be digesting that for years to come.

Checkers is way too simple. Little strategy and little tactical maneuvers and only two kinds of pieces. Chess has lots of pieces with different moves and values. Lots of tactical maneuvers. You also get to choose targets like king and other valuable pieces.
Checkers has no targets or valuable pieces.
You don’t understand checkers. That’s all.

Checkers is way too simple. Little strategy and little tactical maneuvers and only two kinds of pieces. Chess has lots of pieces with different moves and values. Lots of tactical maneuvers. You also get to choose targets like king and other valuable pieces.
Checkers has no targets or valuable pieces.
You don’t understand checkers. That’s all.
I think most people, including selrah, understand checkers enough to know it is simpler than chess. To say checkers has only two kinds of pieces is true. It's also true chess has more variety, more possible positions, more piece values, and more complexity. I think the point is chess, because it has a bigger variety of targets and piece values, is more complicated. It doesn't mean checkers is necessarily a worse game than chess. Different people like different things. But since both chess and checkers are played on the same board, they get compared a lot.
Checkers just isn't as interesting and challenging as chess. Checkers is a fine game, there is nothing wrong with it. But its like playing with all bishops, and they can only promote to one type of piece. You might have to just accept that checkers is just a simpler game.

Checkers is way too simple. Little strategy and little tactical maneuvers and only two kinds of pieces. Chess has lots of pieces with different moves and values. Lots of tactical maneuvers. You also get to choose targets like king and other valuable pieces.
Checkers has no targets or valuable pieces.
You don’t understand checkers. That’s all.
I think most people, including selrah, understand checkers enough to know it is simpler than chess. To say checkers has only two kinds of pieces is true. It's also true chess has more variety, more possible positions, more piece values, and more complexity. I think the point is chess, because it has a bigger variety of targets and piece values, is more complicated. It doesn't mean checkers is necessarily a worse game than chess. Different people like different things. But since both chess and checkers are played on the same board, they get compared a lot.
Checkers just isn't as interesting and challenging as chess. Checkers is a fine game, there is nothing wrong with it. But its like playing with all bishops, and they can only promote to one type of piece. You might have to just accept that checkers is just a simpler game.
I don’t have to accept anything said by anyone who doesn’t actually play the game and so doesn’t know.

Don't discount checkers. There more going on than meets the eye. The rules of GO are pretty simple, yet a vast ocean of possibilities awaits.
Checkers might ve a simple game, but the ocean of possibilities is still vast... and subtle.

Checkers is way too simple. Little strategy and little tactical maneuvers and only two kinds of pieces. Chess has lots of pieces with different moves and values. Lots of tactical maneuvers. You also get to choose targets like king and other valuable pieces.
Checkers has no targets or valuable pieces.
You don’t understand checkers. That’s all.
I think most people, including selrah, understand checkers enough to know it is simpler than chess. To say checkers has only two kinds of pieces is true. It's also true chess has more variety, more possible positions, more piece values, and more complexity. I think the point is chess, because it has a bigger variety of targets and piece values, is more complicated. It doesn't mean checkers is necessarily a worse game than chess. Different people like different things. But since both chess and checkers are played on the same board, they get compared a lot.
Checkers just isn't as interesting and challenging as chess. Checkers is a fine game, there is nothing wrong with it. But its like playing with all bishops, and they can only promote to one type of piece. You might have to just accept that checkers is just a simpler game.
I don’t have to accept anything said by anyone who doesn’t actually play the game and so doesn’t know.
That doesn't make any sense. We all know. We all know how chess is played, and most of us know how checkers is played. We KNOW checkers is a much simpler game. There is no guessing. That's why checkers is a solved game, and chess is not. Chess is much more complex. We all know that. Including you.
Chess has much more strategy. There are many variations of rules in checkers. I don't know the normal rules for checkers.