Chess Vs Go

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calebmon wrote:

It has been awhile guys, no one seems to quite understand what I was trying to say, here was my intention in this post: Go on a 19x19 board is OBJECTIVELY more complex than chess, there is no debate there, it has been proven. But Go can be played on various board sizes. I Think the rules of Go are not as complex as Chess's Rules. I believe that Go only has more possible moves because it is played on a board that is over twice the size of a chess board, IF (keyword here is IF) chess and go were both played on an 8x8 board then Chess would likely be considered more complex. Likewise if Chess and Tic tac toe were both played on 8x8 boards, Chess would be more complex. Chess and Checkers are played on 8x8 boards and Chess is more complex. ect. ect. ect. Therefore Go is only more complex because of board size alone, unless someone has some math that suggests otherwise I am pretty confident in this conclusion.

I wasn't trying to say Chess is better or worse than Go, all I was wondering was IF Go was more or less complex on an 8x8 grid, and I found the answer outside of here. It is not more complex on an 8x8 grid because it's rules are much less complex than chess's rules.

There is a comment on Reddit that shows math that supports calebmon's point. Here is the link to the website: https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments/1azrkd1/what_go_board_size_would_have_the_same_complexity/ (P.S if you don't want to go to Reddit I also have the comment here: "A game theorist named John Tromp (who has designed a go ruleset intended to be easily used by computers or other algorithms) has estimated the number of possible unique legal chess positions to be about 4.59 x 1044, and the number of possible unique legal positions in 9x9 go to be about 1.039 x 1038. So, if we use possible number of positions as a measure of complexity (which in itself isn't necessarily the best metric, but it has the distinct advantage of being the one I can quote right now), then chess is a bit more complex than 9x9 go. As a comparison, 13x13 go would have 3.724 x 1079 possible positions, a lot more positions than either. There would be many other ways to measure complexity or depth though, possible number of unique games would be a lot more interesting than unique positions for instance, or average number of choices to pick between per move." - Phhhhuh)