Chess Will Never Be Solved. Why?

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tygxc

"What is “weakly solved"
++ Weakly solved means that for the initial position a strategy has been determined
to achieve the game-theoretic value against any opposition.

czechsalmon
We don’t need to because the Danish salmon gambit is the best (e4 e5 d4 etc..)
Ziryab
Grunts2018 wrote:

A 32 piece tablebase would contain so much data that it would be impossible to store due to its size...it would contain more positions than atoms in the known universe.

 

The number of positions is substantially less that atoms in the visible universe. You are thinking of move sequences, not positions.

Even so, there is no way that we could store the data, as you say.

Grunts2018
Ziryab wrote:
Grunts2018 wrote:

A 32 piece tablebase would contain so much data that it would be impossible to store due to its size...it would contain more positions than atoms in the known universe.

 

The number of positions is substantially less that atoms in the visible universe. You are thinking of move sequences, not positions.

Even so, there is no way that we could store the data, as you say.

No I am think of positions....its a well known and famous chess 'fact' that there are more possible positions than atoms....

Ziryab

10^43 positions

10^82 atoms

10^120 sequences of moves

 

All well-known. You mixed up the description of one with the number of another.

tygxc

#536
You talk nonsense.
Checkers and Losing Chess have been weakly solved, not strongly.
There is no semi-weak or semi-strong.
ultra-weakly solved means that
the game-theoretic value of the initial position has been determined,
weakly solved means that for the initial position a strategy has been determined
to achieve the game-theoretic value against any opposition, and
strongly solved is being used for a game for which such a strategy has been determined
for all legal positions

not_cl0ud

I really don't know about how people managed to invent chess when there are so much questions about it, while the people who made it probably didn't even notice it's causing such a big stir. Despite this, I assume that we are lucky, as if they gave up during the process, there would be no chess.com!

not_cl0ud

I guess I agree to that

not_cl0ud

12th century Islamic-style chess set from Iran. New York Metropolitan Museum of Art.
  
12th century chessmen from the Isle of Lewis (four kings)
  
A leaf from the Libro de los juegos, Alfonso X of Castile, c. 1283
The history of chess goes back almost 1500 years. The game originated in northern India in the 6th century AD and spread to Persia. When the Arabsconquered Persia, chess was taken up by the Muslim world and subsequently, through the Moorish conquest of Spain, spread to Southern Europe. But in early Russia, the game came directly from the Khanates (muslim territories) to the south.

In Europe, the moves of the pieces changed in the 15th century. The modern game starts with these changes. In the second half of the 19th century, modern tournament play began. Chess clocks were first used in 1883, and the first world chess championship was held in 1886. The 20th century saw advances in chess theory, and the establishment of the World Chess Federation (FIDE).Chess engines (programs that play chess), and chess data bases became important.

not_cl0ud

(This thread is REALLY stuck here)

MARattigan
Pawntonic wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

Why am I writing in white?

He's not. He's writing in black. (I'm writing in white.)

not_cl0ud

Please refrain from posting irrelevant comments. Thank you.

not_cl0ud
MARattigan wrote:
Pawntonic wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

Why am I writing in white?

He's not. He's writing in black. (I'm writing in white.)

Depends on light and dark UI

MARattigan
ChessFlair01 wrote:

Please refrain from posting irrelevant comments. Thank you.

Please refrain from posting irrelevant comments. Thank you.

not_cl0ud
MARattigan wrote:
ChessFlair01 wrote:

Please refrain from posting irrelevant comments. Thank you.

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Please do not copy and paste another person’s messages. This is counted as spamming.

not_cl0ud

This forum is kinda stuck at 500, ey :/

not_cl0ud

Why