@6685
"it's a forced win for white"
++ No, Chess is a draw. The question is: how exactly to draw as black?
Chess will never be solved, here's why
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Dec 16, 2022
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#5063
Doubly contrasting, an interesting fact is that a high-end graphics card from 2022 has as much computing power as the top 500 supercomputers in 1994, when the Internet was young.
Dec 16, 2022
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#5064
Elroch wrote:
Doubly contrasting, an interesting fact is that a high-end graphics card from 2022 has as much computing power as the top 500 supercomputers in 1994, when the Internet was young.
Amazing that we can cram billions of transistors into such a small space... as well as mass manufacture these units affordably.
tygxc wrote:
@6685
"it's a forced win for white"
++ No, Chess is a draw. The question is: how exactly to draw as black?
No, chess is a forced win for white. The question is, how many moves does it take?
Dec 16, 2022
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#5066
lfPatriotGames wrote:
tygxc wrote:
@6685
"it's a forced win for white"
++ No, Chess is a draw. The question is: how exactly to draw as black?
No, chess is a forced win for white. The question is, how many moves does it take?
My crazy dead uncle said he could prove chess is a win for white in just 5 years. "He felt that power."
This proves it's true.
And if anyone wants to give me $3 million and wait for 5 years I'll prove it too.
tygxc wrote:
@6683
"How much does it cost"
++ I have estimated before:
3 grandmasters * 100,000 $/year/grandmaster * 5 years = 1.5 million $
3 cloud engines = 3000 desktops = 3000 * 500 $ = 1.5 million $
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Total 3 million $
Try running those resources not for 5 years, but 5 billion years. It's a more reasonable estimate, though probably still many-many magnitudes too low.
Papa llama.
magipi wrote:
tygxc wrote:
@6683
"How much does it cost"
++ I have estimated before:
3 grandmasters * 100,000 $/year/grandmaster * 5 years = 1.5 million $
3 cloud engines = 3000 desktops = 3000 * 500 $ = 1.5 million $
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Total 3 million $
Try running those resources not for 5 years, but 5 billion years. It's a more reasonable estimate, though probably still many-many magnitudes too low.
Imagine how far 3 million dollars will go then. Probably barely enough to buy a used chess clock, circa 2022.
Dec 16, 2022
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#5070
I can solve tictactoe for $10. May not be so impressive, but it is surely a bargain. Also, I will not bodge the job like @tygxc.
optimissed I would rather try to employ @ tygxc. Because he is coming up with theories rather than just proving others wrong like you are
And then just being able to pop in and judge everyone Conversing
The point @tygxc is trying to get across is that it would take a lot of time, money, and effort keep it simple just leave it at that
But I do also understand optimissed
Guess we just can't all be as smart as you
*Sarcasm*
Listen i'm not super smart about some things but I am good about telling other people what somebody is trying to communicate to them
bye
I guess that answers the question. Chess will never be solved. At least doing it that way.
Seems a lot easier to just figure it's a forced win for white.