Chess will never be solved, here's why

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tygxc wrote:

#6
Chess is a draw
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.04374.pdf 

 

Amazing and thank you!

 

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I think both torpedo and pawn sideways rules should be added.

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idilis wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

OK I'll experiment. This is me a year ago when I wasn't shaving. If it isn't the right way up, I'll rotate it.

Ustinov on diet?

Not a very good diet is it. There's a lot of muscle but I don't have a 30 and a half inch waist any more like I did for about 2 decades. More like 36. I really need to exercise more and eat and drink less

Now where was that whisky .... I had a bottle of Cardhu Gold Reserve single malt? Oh got it. never tasted it before a week ago. Asda had it for £25 a bottle and I thought I'd try it. Went right back for another one and one of Old Pulteney, similarly reduced.

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GQV1N wrote:

are yall not worried about people stealing your photos?

It's only about the second time I ever posted one of me on this site. It'll be lost in the threads.

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GQV1N wrote:

yes! but isnt he a guy? every time I say I'm from there they think of the singer and not the island ☠️

She's all woman. 😁

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I just came here to say Hi

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Kampfjet wrote:

I just came here to say Hi

Probably the biggest reason why chess won't be solved. Too many distractions

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Optimissed wrote:

*Snip*Now where was that whisky .... I had a bottle of Cardhu Gold Reserve single malt? Oh got it. never tasted it before a week ago. Asda had it for £25 a bottle and I thought I'd try it. Went right back for another one and one of Old Pulteney, similarly reduced.

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One of my favourite artistes to listen to while running.

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I'm more of a country music guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_zS_uiPWxs

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Optimissed wrote:

"Now where was that whisky .... I had a bottle of Cardhu Gold Reserve single malt? Oh got it. never tasted it before a week ago. Asda had it for £25 a bottle and I thought I'd try it. Went right back for another one and one of Old Pulteney, similarly reduced."

I'm a fan of Laphroaig myself, as I really like the smokey peat notes.  And it doesn't hurt that the price is generally reasonable too.  Cheers!

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Cheers! I like the Quartercask one.

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I'm more than 3 times old enough.  Here's to being 21, 44 years ago lol.

 

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@6175
"games that have been won by a successful (often sacrificial) attack on the king?"
++ A successful direct attack on the king can only succeed if one player neglects his defence, i.e. does not play optimally. Alekhine selected Bogolyubov not because he was stronger than Capablanca, Nimzovich, or Rubinstein, but because he was weaker.
Queening a pawn is at top level a more feasible way to win.

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@6163

"Even if a computer would solve chess, which I doubt" ++ A matter of money.

"because the possible "reasobable" positions is estimated to be around 10^120"
++ No, 10^44 legal positions of which 10^17 relevant.

"humanly impossible to memorize"
++ It may be impossible to memorize 10^17 positions or 10^15 games, but memorizing 10,000 games or about a million positions in a few months is possible.

"possible themes and strategies in every perfect game the engine provides"
++ Yes, maybe Chess can be solved by a set of e.g. 1000 rules, like Connect Four was weakly solved with 9 knowledge rules.

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No-one can memorise a million positions in a few months. That is a position every few seconds all day long 7 days a week.

A million positions in a lifetime by an exceptionally talented person? Maybe.

A million is a tiny number to chess.

Regarding the rest of what you say, I'll just observe that repeating your errors after they have been pointed out is pathological behaviour, not reasoning.

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tygxc wrote:

++ A successful direct attack on the king can only succeed if one player neglects his defence, i.e. does not play optimally. ...

So where did Black neglect his defence in the game I posted here Mister 2046?

Back to the validity of your basic calculation, I invited you here to "Show it or shut it". You have done neither so far. Do you plan to?

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Elroch wrote:

No-one can memorise a million positions in a few months. That is a position every few seconds all day long 7 days a week.

A million positions in a lifetime by an exceptionally talented person? Maybe.

A million is a tiny number to chess.

Regarding the rest of what you say, I'll just observe that repeating your errors after they have been pointed out is pathological behaviour, not reasoning.

A million in a lifetime? It's a big number. 20,000 a year for 50 years. 60 a day. Maybe someone with a prodigious memory could. Unlikely ever to happen in practice.

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PDX_Axe wrote:

I'm more than 3 times old enough.  Here's to being 21, 44 years ago lol.

 

Next year I'll be four times old enough. 72.

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Optimissed wrote:
PDX_Axe wrote:

I'm more than 3 times old enough.  Here's to being 21, 44 years ago lol.

 

Next year I'll be four times old enough. 72.

You haven't told us where your moles are yet.