Chess will never be solved, here's why

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BigChessplayer665
Optimissed wrote:

Sounds like trolling at this point. Do you get a free box of chocolates or a toy?

Conveniently examples are now trolls !

Better make an example out of...

BigChessplayer665
Optimissed wrote:

They are still visible to moderators.

The fact you're making an issue of denying it proves your guilt. They are your coded messages. I've seen you do it before.

Huh your denying stuff to think before you speak

DiogenesDue
Optimissed wrote:

Do you think anyone is going to believe you? Your trolling started straight after the images were posted and then he deleted the images. A person who claims to be as observant as you do cannot possibly have missed them. You're just dropping yourself further and further in it. A moderator can find the images.

Your confirmation bias is showing again. You really do have bats in your belfry...what were these images exactly? Would anyone else who is sane like to explain this newly hatched nonsense?

Elroch
Optimissed wrote:
Elroch wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Elroch wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I haven't read your comment, any of it

Finally, you reveal a reason why your replies make no sense!

Only your last comment, which was obviously based on desperation. Deleting those pictures

There were some imaginary pictures in your head? Do describe them for the rest of us.

You're denying you posted them?
I think I have enough to report you now.

Of course you do. Be my guest!

Elroch
Optimissed wrote:

None of his comments have been about my comments.

For example post #12521 quoted and reinforced my helpful post to you explaining the difference between mathematical induction (a method of rigorous deduction) and inductive reasoning (which is always uncertain).

You could learn from his words, where he gives a simple illustrative example.

[Silly me, of course you couldn't, your psychological barriers are way too high].

tygxc

@12545

"solving checkers took 18 years and over a thousand CPU years"
++ No. The majority of that was for creating Chinook and the endgame table base.
The actual solving took 2 years and 50 CPU, i.e. 100 CPU years.

tygxc

@12548

"a major misunderstanding of what mathematics is"
++ Goldbach, Fermat, Riemann, Mersenne, Ramanujan are famous mathematicians for what they conjectured, not for what they proved and certainly not for proofs they criticized.
Besides many proofs were at first faulty and had to be corrected, e.g. the Four color theorem

tygxc

@12542

"do anything to win an argument"
++ I do not want to win arguments, if I want to win, then I play chess. I am only after the truth.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

should be judged using asic's. cpu's are y-day for this right ?

tygxc

@12540

"I doubt humans can add anything today."
++ You should really play ICCF and see for yourself.

Here are some statements by the late ICCF GM Dronov, 3 times ICCF World Champion in a 2010 Interview:

'in a few years they will argue that after 1.e4 it is possible to make a draw'
'I always play to win'
'Why, in your opinion, do you manage to show outstanding tournament results, gaining a big plus in strong competitions?' 'General chess culture.'

Elroch

Deleting imaginary pictures is indeed my masterstroke. But I can do more.

I will now make a brontosaurus disappear.

GONE!

Amazing, huh? Not a sign of it anywhere.

tygxc

@12589

"Elroch will do anything to win an argument."
++ He just makes a fool of himself claiming 1 a4 or 1 e4 e5 2 Ba6 win for white.

Elroch
tygxc wrote:

@12589

"Elroch will do anything to win an argument."
++ He just makes a fool of himself claiming 1 a4 or 1 e4 e5 2 Ba6 win for white.

Misrepresentation. No post of mine has claimed this.

Did you post an untruth because you are dishonest or because you are incompetent?

Elroch
Optimissed wrote:
Elroch wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

None of his comments have been about my comments.

For example post #12521 quoted and reinforced my helpful post to you explaining the difference between mathematical induction (a method of rigorous deduction) and inductive reasoning (which is always uncertain).

You could learn from his words, where he gives a simple illustrative example.

[Silly me, of course you couldn't, your psychological barriers are way too high].

I have explained why it was not mathematical induction. You cannot map a crumpet to a falcon. That post. There is no possibility that mathematical induction could be used to prove what you wish to be proven to help your case. It was philosophical induction. If you don't understand, you are just not very bright. Oh I forgot. You may seem very bright to some but unfortunately ..........

Zermelo's theorem is proved using mathematical induction. You can check with literally any mathematically competent person (a passing undergraduate would do, or a bright high schooler) if you are unable to understand the proof yourself.

Here is an example proof again. (The MIT server is a bit slow to download from but it gets there. For convenience, here is the proof:
)

tygxc

@12593

"No post of mine has claimed this."
++ I claim 1 a4 cannot be better than 1 e4 and 1 e4 e5 2 Ba6? loses for white.
You vehemently denied this several times, thus claimed the opposite.

Elroch

It seems you still do not understand the difference between something being very likely and it being certain. I understand that you conflate high confidence and certainty. This is a common amateur error regarding uncertainty.

If you buy a ticket in a lottery where 1 in a trillion wins, it is very unlikely that you will win. It is however DEFINITELY NOT TRUE that you know you won't win. Same for 1 in a quadrillion. And so on.

How difficult is that?

Note that the result of the positions to which you referred would become CERTAIN if they were weakly solved.

It's worth emphasising that the purpose of a mathematical proof is not to convince yourself that something is true. It is to add a truth to the body of what is known for certain. This is a strict discipline, not like playing a game.

Elroch

Yes, like all the supposed 'alts' and 'hidden messages"

Elroch
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Elroch wrote:
tygxc wrote:

@12589

"Elroch will do anything to win an argument."
++ He just makes a fool of himself claiming 1 a4 or 1 e4 e5 2 Ba6 win for white.

Misrepresentation. No post of mine has claimed this.

Did you post an untruth because you are dishonest or because you are incompetent?

You claimed it may not be a loss for white. That's enough to show your incompetence. Ty is being ironic. Lost on you.

Would you say that a ticket in a 1 in a quadrillion lottery could not win? If you answer that it could not, you need a refresher in epistemiology.

MaetsNori
llama_l wrote:

When someone says they notice things that others usually miss, including hidden meaning to ordinary things, that's a common sign of schizophrenia, just sayin' The person assumes they're just more observant, but in reality others don't notice these things because they don't exist.

Ooh, fun. Let me roleplay a response to this!

"These things certainly exist. I'm just of a higher intelligence than most - including you - so I'm one of the few people capable of perceiving and understanding these things. If you were as smart as me, you'd realize I'm indisputably correct in any and all of my assertions.

But alas, I stand alone on this mental precipice, doomed to perceive more than all and fated to be forever doubted by the tiny minds that surround me ..."

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

person assumes they're just more observant, but in reality others don't notice these things because they don't exist.

except in chess (& a hobuncha other stuff in life...& death too).