Chess will never be solved, here's why

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LMAO, i lose half my games and am low rated and these armchair keyboard warriors accuse me of cheating? Welcome to my block list

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dasamething wrote:

superbikequeen not everyone in life is gonna be nice! grow up! you expect people to be real nice. but your a woman, so how are you going to understand.

So you chose not to be nice hmf

You need to... Grow up!

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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
dasamething wrote:

superbikequeen not everyone in life is gonna be nice! grow up! you expect people to be real nice. but your a woman, so how are you going to understand.

So you chose not to be nice hmf

You need to... Grow up!

Says the 15 or 16 year old troll?

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Optimissed wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
dasamething wrote:

superbikequeen not everyone in life is gonna be nice! grow up! you expect people to be real nice. but your a woman, so how are you going to understand.

So you chose not to be nice hmf

You need to... Grow up!

Says the 15 or 16 year old troll?

I'm not 15-16 this is embarrassing

Says the 69+ year old troll

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dasamething wrote:

not 16, she's the one complaining about about her hurt feelings.

She's not

Your the one complaining lol

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dasamething wrote:

i never complained of how i'm getting treated

So you treat other badly they usually retaliate

Unless you don't know how human nature works (or part of it )

Not my fault your accusing people lol

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DiogenesDue wrote:
0208Atharva wrote:

Chess, like many other games and puzzles, has different layers of complexity and meaning depending on how you approach it. From a competitive standpoint, where the goal is to win, many argue that chess has been "solved" to some extent by top players who have mastered its strategies and tactics. However, if you view chess as a creative and infinite exploration of possibilities, then it can never truly be solved, as there will always be new positions and ideas to discover. So, whether chess is "solved" or not depends on your perspective and how you choose to engage with the game.

No, whether chess is considered solved depends on a very exact set of definitions for solving games:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solved_game

You would have known this if you read any of the thread before opining...

I have pretty much proved you wrong. To my own satisfaction and to the satisfaction of people much cleverer than you are. I have given irrefutable arguments why a deductive solution for chess is impossible. I know you won't be able to refute what I wrote but neither will anyone else because what I wrote is accurate.

This means that the definitions you rely on are incorrect BECAUSE they are inapplicable. They are inapplicable due to the reasons I have given, as to why the solution looked for by the mathematics department here (such as it is ... it isn't very strong, no PhDs at all) is impossible to achieve.

Thie discussion regarding this subject is over and the best we have is tygxc's methodology with my suggestions incorporated. There's nothing else. Tough.

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dasamething wrote:

Alles, was Sie Amerikaner können, ist, sich selbst zu bemitleiden.

Nah the only one who's feeling sorry for themselves is you lol for now at least maybe hopefully that will change once you stop trolling random people (not even trolling that's actually harassment ) btw

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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
dasamething wrote:

superbikequeen not everyone in life is gonna be nice! grow up! you expect people to be real nice. but your a woman, so how are you going to understand.

So you chose not to be nice hmf

You need to... Grow up!

Says the 15 or 16 year old troll?

I'm not 15-16 this is embarrassing

Says the 69+ year old troll

I think you are because I'm starting to recognise you. I'm 73. You must have lost count during your previous incarnation here.

Anyway, you post like a 15 year old so why are you embarrassed?? Also I'm not trolling. The argument is over and any good mathematician would agree with me. I mean, good mathematician. The solution as looked for by the section here opposed to tygxc is impossible to achieve with any degree of certainty. There's no doubt about it and therefore the definitions of solving as given by the Combinational Game Theorists are inapplicable and merely dreams.

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Optimissed wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
dasamething wrote:

superbikequeen not everyone in life is gonna be nice! grow up! you expect people to be real nice. but your a woman, so how are you going to understand.

So you chose not to be nice hmf

You need to... Grow up!

Says the 15 or 16 year old troll?

I'm not 15-16 this is embarrassing

Says the 69+ year old troll

I think you are because I'm starting to recognise you. I'm 73. You must have lost count during your previous incarnation here.

Anyway, you post like a 15 year old so why are you embarrassed??

So close yet so far away

You don't have to believe me that im not 15🤣

Ik my age happy.png rather you think I'm a fifteen year old lol

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False recognition becomes more common at advanced ages.

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Optimissed wrote:
DiogenesDue wrote:
0208Atharva wrote:

Chess, like many other games and puzzles, has different layers of complexity and meaning depending on how you approach it. From a competitive standpoint, where the goal is to win, many argue that chess has been "solved" to some extent by top players who have mastered its strategies and tactics. However, if you view chess as a creative and infinite exploration of possibilities, then it can never truly be solved, as there will always be new positions and ideas to discover. So, whether chess is "solved" or not depends on your perspective and how you choose to engage with the game.

No, whether chess is considered solved depends on a very exact set of definitions for solving games:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solved_game

You would have known this if you read any of the thread before opining...

I have pretty much proved you wrong.

You disproved a whole person? We mathematicians are limited to disproving objective propositions.

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dasamething wrote:

none of you americans know a thing, how would you, all of you are liberals!

Yes at least we liberals admit that

I doubt you could even look yourself in the mirror and say "I messed up I trolled to much "

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Elroch wrote:

False recognition becomes more common at advanced ages.

I expect it probably does because many people start to lose their faculties. However, it starts at different ages and progresses at different rates. There are some people precisely 11 years younger than me here who are without doubt very much further along the path.

There is one person we have seen very little of for the past two years or year and a half. The behavioural patterns are very similar and the emotional imbalance is identical. I could be wrong of course. We can all be wrong.

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dasamething wrote:

liberals are perverts, so what is the point to admitting.

I like this comment

It shows everything about your erm special personality

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dasamething wrote:

liberals are perverts, so what is the point to admitting.

So you try to be a better person I dunno 🤷

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Optimissed wrote:

I have pretty much proved you wrong. To my own satisfaction and to the satisfaction of people much cleverer than you are. I have given irrefutable arguments why a deductive solution for chess is impossible. I know you won't be able to refute what I wrote but neither will anyone else because what I wrote is accurate.

This means that the definitions you rely on are incorrect BECAUSE they are inapplicable. They are inapplicable due to the reasons I have given, as to why the solution looked for by the mathematics department here (such as it is ... it isn't very strong, no PhDs at all) is impossible to achieve.

Thie discussion regarding this subject is over and the best we have is tygxc's methodology with my suggestions incorporated. There's nothing else. Tough.

If chess cannot be solved strongly or weakly solved, then changing the definition does not solve it. If you could reason at all, you would understand this...but instead, you choose to posit a theory along the lines of "since we cannot accelerate to the speed of light, then we should just use the speed of sound instead, since that is achievable".

I trust that even you could grasp how feeble an argument this is, if you weren't primarily concerned with not losing face and pretending you are gifted somehow.

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dasamething wrote:

none of you americans know a thing, how would you, all of you are liberals!

I'm pretty sure even the non-liberals would not be stoked to find out you are on their side. You seem a few scoops short of a milkshake.

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dasamething wrote:

not on your side btw.

...and I am duly stoked.

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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
dasamething wrote:

not 16, she's the one complaining about about her hurt feelings.

She's not

Your the one complaining lol

He's a sort of random comments troll.