Chess will never be solved, here's why

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What championship contender played Go to train?

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TsetseRoar wrote:

Strange thread...most people seem to have no idea what "solving" a game means.

Solving a game does not mean being dominant over all other humans...otherwise chess was "solved" by Morphy, even though we can find many suboptimal moves in his play now.

Solving also doesn't mean calculating every permutation.

What it means is a mathematically best strategy has been shown -- either an unstoppable strategy that always wins for one player, or a strategy that forces a draw (where an unstoppable can be proved to not exist).

At this time, the game of chess has not been solved, but there is no reason why it is impossible, or intractable.

I think Go will be solved before chess, and when that happens we can suspect chess is coming soon. Go has many more permutations than chess, so is sometimes described as a more complex game, but I think, given only one kind of "piece" and "move" it looks a better candidate for finding an unbeatable strategy.

But what about the fact that most moves made have countermoves? How does that play into this explanation?

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thats the whole thing...it doesnt burst !

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Give your Best

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Brainiacsa wrote:

What championship contender played Go to train?

While I dispute the last part, the answer is Lasker. I was keen on Go for a while. Got to low kyu in a year of excessive time spent on it.

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...and how did that improve u as a person ?

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It was not "training as a person".

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https://www.chess.com/forum/view/fun-with-chess/duck-invasion-warning?page=302

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...so u didnt grow from it ?

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

...so u didnt grow from it ?

better to lose weight usually.

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i just wanna know if he learned a/t ...seeings that hes tryn so hard to sound smart...

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Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

i just wanna know if he learned a/t ...seeings that hes tryn so hard to sound smart...

He thinks. Intelligence and smartness are results of thinking.
Results. Not 'trying to be'.
Lola - you would know the difference.
'would'.
But only if you consider that difference or don't forget about it.

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Thinking can have significant results

Design thinking can have lots of significant results:

1. Reframing problems

2. Overcoming cognitive fixedness

3. Encouraging creativity 👏

Among others

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Deep service design thinking could lead to addressing

which is the most important pain area that users need solution for

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Objective thinking with zero subjectivity ... does that happen 'across the board on a sustained basis' for anybody?
Apparently not.
Humans just aren't that perfect.
And people know that. Have 'funny' ways of expressing that.
Many regard computers as 'perfect' though.
But computers are extensions of human programming and decisions and policies - so computers and their activities aren't perfect either.
But that one is more of a paradox because people would argue a computer can't have subjectvity.

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well said playerafar well said - and i TY for the trek to neverland :: )

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im yumpy this morning ! i ran a test on this zippy miner i just got. i found 10 lead zeroes in like 6 min. actually two. convert these #'s to a sha-256 hash and ull know:

2867882182685

2904451013118

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I recall that 660822193737 was pretty good 3.7 years ago.

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u surprise me. of all ppl...