chess.com vs FIDE(USCF) rating

Please write your standard FIDE (or USCF) rating and your coorrespondence CHESS.COM rating so we can find out (from hopefully a large sample) what is the correlation between those three.

Say also whether your real-life rating is up-to-date. Maybe it does not match your real skills highly improved since last (distant in time) tournament.

USCF: 1465

chess.com: 2116

i have CFC: 1422

chess.com: 1386 (growing rating! :) )

no USCF

Chess.com :1703

If you want your survey to have statistical significance you should note the type of chess.com and USCF rating. Some have replied with their correspondence rating and others with their live rating. USCF tracks standard and quick ratings.

FWIW, this survey was done 1.5 years ago. At that time the correspondence was poor.

thanx, I've changed it.

Sweet. Good luck. :)

I strongly suspect that you will find no meaningful correlation over a lage sample size.

Corr. Chess.com: 1744, but I'm playing 138 games

USCF- not sure, only been in 1 tournament.  maybe around 1400

chess.com=1738

USCF=1176

BIG range!

USCF 1435 (11games)

Chess 1800+ (2000+ games)

Well established USCF standard rating of 1750; current (still volatile) Chess.com is 1905.

USCF is 1787  chess.com CC is 1752.

USCF: I feel I am playing an equal against someone 1650 or so.

Chess.com CC: 2052

I think the Chess.com rating is probably about 100-200 points lower than USCF.

Here's one reason why I think chess.com ratings are lower than USCF ratings: 98% of all chess players on chess.com are rated lower than 1600. I know this because my rating is in the low 1600s and my ranking/stats incidcate that I'm in the top 98% of players on chess.com. Now, USCF players may be better on average than chess.com players but a 1600 rating USCF is probably nowhere near the 98th percentile.

@lawyer08 - You must consider the difference in member population.  Your rationale depends on the profile of the population's ability being similar, but they are very different.

The barrier to entry is far lower at chess.com than USCF, so the majority of chess.com members are defunct ones who joined, played a few quick games, and quit months ago with a rating of 800-1200.  This is most of your 98% figure.  This means that there is a large pool of non-active players who have artificially inflated the rest of our ratings, especially at the lower end of the spectrum.  I believe that is why it is easy to get to a rating of 1200-1400 at chess.com, even if one is really around USCF 1000 (like me). 

You can see this on the ratings distribution graph that is floating around the forums - a big spike around rating level 1200.

Speaking of which, I personally think the rating distribution graph shouldn't include anyone who has played less than 30 games. 

Also, CC ratings should slowly equalize to return to having 1200 as the average.

Thoughts? Comments?

@draconlord - I suppose the system you propose would be to have a 'provisional' rating for the first dozen or so games, and these games are actually unrated for purposes of rating the rest of us. 

Or alternatively members could be started with a lower rating (say 1000) but then the problem arises of very good new members, and no-one would want to play the new members for risk of losing rating points.

I think the crux of the problem is that it is impossible to have a chess.com system that accurately  estimates a USCF or FIDE rating because of at least the following two reasons:

1- The play is radically different between chess.com and OTB (G15 or "correspondence" instead of G120 or whatever) and someone who excels at "correspondence" is not necessarily good at G120 in tourney conditions

2- The population group is radically different (both in ability and likelihood of leaving after a few games)

That being said, I have found that the chess.com ratings accurately indicate our skill in the corresponding games types as played here online, and I think this is what the admins state clearly how the ratings should be interpreted.

I don't have an OTB rating (yet) but I have come to the conlusion that there is no way to find out what it is until I play in OTB conditions.

I would think there is no comparison between a correspondence chess rating and a live OTB rating. In OTB chess, your not given days or weeks to plan a move.  Start comparing live chess ratings to OTB ratings and maybe you will have something closer.

fide 1762, chess.com 2088