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tacticalthedisaster

Tell me what u guys think about my Nezzy....be polite happy.png

 

igiveupnow

I'll give it a try when I have some time.

EscherehcsE
tacticalthedisaster wrote:

I just downloaded the "extra" personalities and i'd be VERY surprised if those personalities were created by the Ubisoft team with the help of Chess GM's. The NEzhmetdinov profile plays BORING chess on these new profiles. Bro that is NOT how Nezhmetdinov played Chess. That profile i just downloaded trades pawns for paws ZERO complex sacrifices or swashbuckling tactics. MY "nezzy" is pure joy to watch play. Look at that Fischer game.....it ALWAYS plays like that. Down material for a good portion of the game.....using the initiative like the REAL Nezhmetdinov and making bold sacrifices that seem CRAZY!!!! SO FUNNY i was scared to post my personality specs as i thought the one i downloaded would be better in some way and i'd look silly. NOT AT ALL.....posting them now so ican get credit. In all reality i think those extra downloads were just some guy who made them and posted them online......the variation in the personalities and the choices of openings make NO SENSE. Nezhmetdiniv is REAL life NEVER played the Sicilian. Not sure why but gho look thru the databases he DID NOT like the sicilian. This new one plays the sicilain Issac Boleslavsky was KNOWN for his mastery of teh sicilian. NO MENTION of that in the description of his profile. Gligoric beat the mess out of a young Bobby Fischer and was an EXPERT on the King's Indian Def......while i didnt read the profile i'm guessing its lacking in those specs.....anyway enoug ranting....posting Nezzy next

Yeah, I have no idea who made the extra personalities. Nezhmetdinov didn't seem to do all that much. I'll add your name to the personality info for your "Nezzy" personality. Do you prefer your Chess.com handle or your real name? Also, are you staying with "Nezmetdinov" for the official personality name? Or maybe "Nezzy", or even "Super Nezh" (a blatant ripoff of Alex Pishkin's book by the same name).

EscherehcsE
tacticalthedisaster wrote:
  • attacker/defender -50
  • strength of play 100
  • material/ positional +50 (highly positional leaning towards position as opposed to material) 
  • randomness 50 (unsure how this affects its play but i wanted to to explore ALL lines) 
  • max depth search 99
  • selective search 10 
  • contempt for draw 0
  • Transpostion table 16MB.......YES to Pondering and Endgame databases.

Second Page......ALL specs are the SAME for it and its opponent. My thinking is that for THESE values......say its control of the center.....you u set the enemy control of center low.....then the engine will perceive GOOD control of the center by the enemy and not a big deal. So ALL my values in this section are EQUAL. If you set its value of pawn weaknesses high and equal it will munch EVERY pawn it can but it will also consider the value you gave it for "material" concerns when considering the value you gave it for pawn concerns. anywho..

  • own control of center 150
  • Own mobility 140
  • own king safety 80
  • own passed pawns 90
  • own pawn weaknesses 80

Lastly is material.......ALL the values here are normal values....1 for pawn.....3 for knight, etc.......the ONLY thing here different is i figure if its gonna sac pieces in search of attacking lines......it should TRY to keep its Queen.....my value for the Queen is 10.3......i was thinking to pushing it up to 10.5 but i KINDA like how he plays now. I cant really see what i wanna change......he loses often but plays aggressive and VERY tactical......LOTS of rook and pawn sacrifices.....castling to either side.....open lines for pieces most likely as a result of its high mobility and control of center values. oh yeah the Opening book......"Reference" i figure it should make use of ALL Gambits at its disposal and well as be familiar with any and all variations that might come about. So i gave it the reference book......and it plays ALOT of different openings but CLEARLY plays for open lines and center control.......which is what i told it to do  THIS is the REAL Nezhmetdinov......i have brought him back for all of you to enjoy.........enjoy urselves guys.....happy new yr

Thanks for the detailed settings - I think that nails down all of the parameters. I don't know when I'll get around to importing the personalities into Arena (It's a fair bit of work.)

tacticalthedisaster

 

in response to #47
Good luck against my Nezzy
tacticalthedisaster
igiveupnow

I just finished the game, and I must say that the game was kinda boring. We reached a totally equal minor piece endgamerather fast through series of exchanges so at that point i just stopped playing.

igiveupnow

Here's the game. I was White.

tacticalthedisaster

only one game?! someone at your level should know it takes more than one game to establish the playing style of your opponent......smh

tacticalthedisaster

but hey thanks for replying and playing my Nezzy 

tacticalthedisaster

you take black now and post THAT game........Nezzy is BEST with the White pieces

tacticalthedisaster

that WAS a boring game tho....i'll give u that

igiveupnow

Sure, but I am at work right now, so I might give it a try tomorrow as well.

igiveupnow

OpenTal is a very good engine in my opinion. It makes both very subtle pawn sacrifices and speculative piece sacrifces as well.

tacticalthedisaster

that position in your game did not lend itself to tactics and you being white in my opinion did NOT play for any sort of complex variations.......that game was basic and simple.......post a few more of ur games with my Nezzy i am SURE he will light you up......positive of it happy.png

igiveupnow

Yeah, I deliberately played for exchanges and symplifying of the position. I'll play a couple more games tomorrow when I feel more rested, and at home.

tacticalthedisaster

Yeah man pls do.....first and foremost thanks for taking the time to reply and even play one.......but i watched it play hundreds of games and moved those parameters up and down to make it JUST right. Or at least the way I WANTED IT TO PLAY. Its a computer and its NOT stockfish so i'm not looking for it to make THE BEST moves possible i just wanted to it take advantage of it evaluation functions and it memory capacity and explore variations that are complex and tactical. that's all i wanted from it. You can also see my parameters and perhaps u can see where it can improve. however the way it plays now is to my liking thus far. I have set its mobility and center control higher that is reasonable. As a result it ALWAYS gives up one or two pawns OR MORE for center control and a lead in development. This is NOT always proper so it loses ALOT. But sometimes it amazes me. It ALSO seems to NOT quit. It played a 200 move draw the other day.......it will KEEP trying to win. I have seen it down and thought ah he's finished only to see him turn the tables late in the endgame. Also as i have it pawn weaknesses and king safety quite low too it doesn't always pick the IDEAL move but it ALWAYS pick the aggressive move happy.png THAT'S what i want. Stockfish can play the BEST moves......my Nezzy will take home the brilliancy prize. 

igiveupnow


This is my second game, this time with black pieces. I'm sorry to say this, but I think you've done too much tweaking of the engine. In this game "Nezzy" sacrified a piece for two pawns without any real compensation, and than voluntarily exchanged queens going into a lost endgame.  I used clock in both games. Nezzy got 15 minutes, I got 25 with no increment.

tacticalthedisaster

well.......that's Nezzy 4 ya.......thanks for posting the other game

EscherehcsE
tacticalthedisaster wrote:

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Lastly is material.......ALL the values here are normal values....1 for pawn.....3 for knight, etc.......the ONLY thing here different is i figure if its gonna sac pieces in search of attacking lines......it should TRY to keep its Queen.....my value for the Queen is 10.3......i was thinking to pushing it up to 10.5 but i KINDA like how he plays now."

 

One question - On the Material page, did you also change the value of the opponent's queen to 10.3, or did you leave it at 9?