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General-Mayhem
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:
ChessPlayinDude47 wrote:

My tastes tend to run toward the more esoteric: Sibelius Symphonies, Shostakovich or Bartok String Quartets, Scriabin Piano Sonatas, and I'm one happy camper at the chessboard - and since I'm a violist, Hindemith is always welcome! As for opera, how about something crazy like Richard Strauss - Elektra or Alban Berg - Wozzeck (incredible orchestrations)... I still love the Baroque, Classical, Romantic repertoire though...

Contemporary composers are welcomed here as well. 

What about the old masters though? Bach... Mozart... can't get much better than that! ;)

ArgoNavis

I found this regarding Arnold Schoenberg.

http://www.bobtailyearlings.com/docs/Schoenberg_chess_paper.pdf

General-Mayhem
kaynight wrote:

Sorry to disagree guys, but my worst chess is when I am Brahms and Liszt.

I imagine that's tough to Handel.

Pulpofeira

General-Mayhem

I think you're Baching up the wrong tree.

tactical_sniper

Don't even get me started on music puns. 

tactical_sniper

Man, I can't Handel this. Stop Haydn it! I know you've got a Liszt of music puns! I think I saw you Chopin for some new piano books, but I think you have a hard time finding any that Suite you. You know, although they are Debussy, I mean - dead, you see, you can still Ravel in their music. Think Bach to the olden days of music - I don't think it would be Rimsky-(Korsakov not) to say that they Shore knew how to compose back then. I have just been practicing so much piano that I Baroque my fingers the other day. I really need Compose myself with my practicing habits.

 

THESE ARE GETTING PATHETIQUE

General-Mayhem

I wonder where everyone else is Haydn.

ChessPlayinDude47

What a Messiaen we've gotten ourselves into!

fightingbob
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

When playing bullet, either Yundi Li's or Kissin's performances of Fantasie-Impromptu. 

You'd play Fantasie-Impromptu of my beloved Chopin for Bullet chess.  To quote Alex from A Clockwork Orange, "It's a sin!"

Here's my somewhat tongue in cheek take on time controls using musical metaphors.  Note: it has been posted before elsewhere, but added to here.

Correspondence via mail or email is a magnificent symphony of Brucknerian or Mahlerian proportion and complexity.  Unfortunately, some gripe the works are too long and difficult to get through.  Their loss.

Old classical at 40 moves in 2-1/2 hours and 16 moves in one hour after that is a grand symphony in the manner of Beethoven, Schubert, Dvořák and Sibelius.  Unbelievably, some think classical music belongs to the past.  Philistines!

Current classical at 40 moves in 90 minutes plus 30 second increment and 30 minutes after that is a 1930s swing session with Count Basie and Duke Ellington, a 1940s Big Band set with Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman, or modern pianistic rhythms a la Bill Evans and Dave Brubeck.  Still, there are some who don't feel the unique rhythms, the complex melodies let alone the underlying harmonies and declare jazz just too slow and boring.  They have no soul, man.

Action chess at 30 minutes Sudden Death is folk music with engaging, but simpler melodies than its sophisticated city cousins, classical and jazz.  The tune can be catchy or melancholy, the lyrics soul stirring, but it's just a poor, wayfaring stranger come and gone.

Blitz at 5 minutes with a 3 sec delay is pop music with the simplest of melodies, a very repetitive base line, only a rare glimpse of harmony and with endings that are rushed and unmemorable.  Appreciated by the masses who don't take music scholarship seriously, or those who like their music in the background.  Listenable, perhaps even toe-tapping when the rhythm is good, turn-the-dial, embarrassingly awful when it's bad.

Bullet at 1 minute is gangsta rap performed by those who should be incarcerated for pushing speed to youngsters.  Perhaps that's too harsh, it's really mind-numbing 12-tone scale serial "music," the intellectual masturbation of classical, and without a glimpse of soul.  Perfect for the frenzied, fevered, disjointed modern age.

General-Mayhem
ChessPlayinDude47 wrote:

What a Messiaen we've gotten ourselves into!

 

Seems we've all been Lully'd into a false sense of security.

ChessPlayinDude47

I think I'll go decompose for a few decades after hearing some of these...

General-Mayhem

Maybe we should accept that the bird has flown the Couperin

ChessPlayinDude47

I wonder where that Byrd will Fauré next, probably wherever his Bill takes him; still much, much better than being in a Cage; now that just wouldn't be Reich, most Cages have a minimal amount of room.

Robert_New_Alekhine

What was Beethoven's favorite fruit?

Ba-na-na-na! 

Robert_New_Alekhine

A man comes to a graveyard and hears Beethoven's 5th Piano Concerto playing backwards. After that, he hears the 4th Piano Concerto, the 3rd, the 2cnd, and the 1st. He asks what is happening.

"It's Beethoven. He's decomposing". 

ChessPlayinDude47
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

What was Beethoven's favorite fruit?

Ba-na-na-na! 

Banana nah, banana nah, banana nah,
banana nah, banana nah, banana nah,
Banana nahhhh! Banana nahhhh!
Banana nah, nah, nah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

We got a couple a nut-breds out there, don't we?

Robert_New_Alekhine

Grieg's First Piano Concerto:

Ba. Na-na-na. Na-na-na.-na-na-na.-na-na-na etc.  

ChessPlayinDude47
fightingbob wrote:
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

When playing bullet, either Yundi Li's or Kissin's performances of Fantasie-Impromptu. 

You'd play Fantasie-Impromptu of my beloved Chopin for Bullet chess.  To quote Alex from A Clockwork Orange, "It's a sin!"

Here's my somewhat tongue in cheek take on time controls using musical metaphors.  Note: it has been posted before elsewhere, but added to here.

Correspondence via mail or email is a magnificent symphony of Brucknerian or Mahlerian proportion and complexity.  Unfortunately, some gripe the works are too long and difficult to get through.  Their loss.

Old classical at 40 moves in 2-1/2 hours and 16 moves in one hour after that is a grand symphony in the manner of Beethoven, Schubert, Dvořák and Sibelius.  Unbelievably, some think classical music belongs to the past.  Philistines!

Current classical at 40 moves in 90 minutes plus 30 second increment and 30 minutes after that is a 1930s swing session with Count Basie and Duke Ellington, a 1940s Big Band set with Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman, or modern pianistic rhythms a la Bill Evans and Dave Brubeck.  Still, there are some who don't feel the unique rhythms, the complex melodies let alone the underlying harmonies and declare jazz just too slow and boring.  They have no soul, man.

Action chess at 30 minutes Sudden Death is folk music with engaging, but simpler melodies than its sophisticated city cousins, classical and jazz.  The tune can be catchy or melancholy, the lyrics soul stirring, but it's just a poor, wayfaring stranger come and gone.

Blitz at 5 minutes with a 3 sec delay is pop music with the simplest of melodies, a very repetitive base line, only a rare glimpse of harmony and with endings that are rushed and unmemorable.  Appreciated by the masses who don't take music scholarship seriously, or those who like their music in the background.  Listenable, perhaps even toe-tapping when the rhythm is good, turn-the-dial, embarrassingly awful when it's bad.

Bullet at 1 minute is gangsta rap performed by those who should be incarcerated for pushing speed to youngsters.  Perhaps that's too harsh, it's really mind-numbing 12-tone scale serial "music," the intellectual masturbation of classical, and without a glimpse of soul.  Perfect for the frenzied, fevered, disjointed modern age.

Yes, so to sum up: Heinrich Ignaz Franz Biber for the slower, Justin Bieber for the faster...

tactical_sniper
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

Grieg's First Piano Concerto:

Ba. Na-na-na. Na-na-na.-na-na-na.-na-na-na etc.  

First? Only I believe. Then dodododododododododododododododo. Ba-nana - ba-nana!