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gerberk

Who is he? Do you mean Arvo Pärt ?

 

 

Yes that is the one  Arvo Part...not my cup of tea

gerberk

>>>>Don't get me started on that last "modernization" of the Magic Flute I watched<<<<

 

You ve probably seen euro trash...Staging an Opera can make it or break it and the modern staging is often badly done.Conservative choreography /staging can go wrong too...It is very hard to find a mix..but it happens now and then..

gerberk

Arnold Schonberg The Gurre lieder...verklarte nacht

 

Dorak Stabat Mater 

 

 

gerberk

I m kind of jealous at that cruise thing..It must be great to play on a boat and amuse the people there.You study Mozart a little and you will discover his greatness very soon..I m sure of that.

 

cheers

ChessPlayinDude47
solskytz wrote:

Nice!

Mexico City has an even later time than California now - but I've been translating into the night, as so often - spicing it with visits to this thread, for some entertainment and inspiration...

Now it's (almost) my bed time too. Rest well!!

p.s. Scriabin was always a bit too depressive for my preferences - and I didn't go too deeply into Sibelius either - but the other members of your list have some very worthy music indeed. 

So many emotions in Scriabin's music - not just depressive - harmonically creative and expressive composer! And a great arc from Russian Romanticism to truly personal vocabulary in the late works, which are so evocative. Sibelius: best symphonist after Beethoven maybe? My two cents... (love the Shostakovich Symphonies too, though...)

solskytz
Anna_kyznetsov wrote:

Can you write pop songs like flo-rida "my house" ?

Who knows - this may very well be the key to my return to professional music making one day... I love improvising and generally get great themes and development...

Either that - or video piano lessons. 

I'll see what I will come up with - but one thing is sure - I need to change my operating model, one way or another, if I want to make anything of my music...

gerberk

The violin concerto by Sibelius..I saw it live a few times and it always gets you to tears almost'...a wonderfull piece of music And the second symphony great stuff and Finlandia..where you almost feel the woods...and the lakes ...

 

ChessPlayinDude47
Robert_New_Alekhine wrote:

I'ves been getting tired more and more from this....I think I'm going to lock myself up in a Tower. But I have to remember to let my Barber cut my hair. And I have to remember to put some Glass in the windows. 

Did your Barber cut your hair yet, or are you still a long-haired musician?

Just make sure he doesn't cut it all off: that would really be (Me)notti of him.

solskytz

<sco64> I'm not familiar with Mozart's symphony n. 9 which you reference here. It was written at age 16 btw. 

I will concede that not ALL of Mozart's compositions were jewels. 

Listen to piano concerto K 482, 466, 488, 595, 491...

Or to the piano sonata in A minor, or the last two symphonies, or to Don Giovanni, or even to the simple Fantasy in D minor for piano solo. 

There's enough feeling there to melt boulders. 

<ChessPlayingDude> life is too short... one can't specialize in EVERYTHING. There always must be some holes...

ChessPlayinDude47
gerberk wrote:

The violin concerto by Sibelius..I saw it live a few times and it always gets you to tears almost'...a wonderfull piece of music And the second symphony great stuff and Finlandia..where you almost feel the woods...and the lakes ...

 

Hey, why do you think I'm ChessPlayinDude47? The 47 is the Opus 47 Sibelius Violin Concerto... I love the Oistrakh recordings, especially. Joshua Bell's is not bad, but a much different style than the Oistrakh...

Sibelius - Symphony No. 7 is incredible, as is No. 4. Two is great, too, but #1 & #2 are much more Tchaikovskian than Sibelian...

gerberk

way to go solskytz..lets teach this Liberace at sea  a little Mozart....The higher the KV the better it gets most of the time...the string quintets are awesome...grin.png

cheers

Crazychessplaya

gerberk

I assumed you was 47 but this is even better...Yeah  Sibelius is a grand composer

Crazychessplaya

gerberk

I have these records with David and Igor Oistrach on Melodia a USSR label and they are simply great.Sibelius Beethoven etc etc Those were the days of music

gerberk

ChessPlayinDude47
gerberk wrote:

Who is he? Do you mean Arvo Pärt ?

 

 

Yes that is the one  Arvo Part...not my cup of tea

  Hmmm, maybe his name should be Arvo Depart instead...

ChessPlayinDude47
gerberk wrote:

I have these records with David and Igor Oistrach on Melodia a USSR label and they are simply great.Sibelius Beethoven etc etc Those were the days of music

Yes! Agreed!  Here's a morsel for you all; probably many of you haven't heard it yet! Some rich, passionate cello music: Khachaturian Cello Concerto-Rhapsody (composed 1963), live video, with Rostropovich in his prime! And Aram himself conducting... nice B&W video with close-up footage of State Orch. USSR and Rostropovich...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C0S-IUEhAQ

fightingbob
gerberk wrote:

way to go solskytz..lets teach this Liberace at sea  a little Mozart....The higher the KV the better it gets most of the time...the string quintets are awesome...

cheers

Forget it, gerbeck and solskytz, the "Liberace at sea," as you call him, will never be convinced because he's a millennial, perhaps one with ADHD as so many show signs of it; just read between the lines.  He says he likes jazz but then goes on to say he also likes "improvised rock/funk/electronic/heavy/folk/cross-genre fusion music."  I bet his idea of jazz doesn't jibe with mine or most posters here.

He also has an inflated and rather pompous idea of what it means to be an artist.  When Woody Allen wrote of his idol, the deceased master in the genre of film, Ingmar Bergman, he called him the premiere artist of cinema in the 20th century but added that he was also a great entertainer, and so he was for those open to the shades of gray that enfold the human condition.  There was always something that drew you into the story, into the lives of his characters, that was both soulful and entertaining.  The same adjectives can be applied to Mozart, and not just for his operas.

So let's be frank, to say Mozart is boring and merely a pop entertainer is to have no soul.  I doubt this fellow would be moved even by Mozart's Requiem.  Sadly, he is a typical cultural indicator of the millennial generation.  Just come to accept it.

Not to end on a sour note, so to speak, here is one of the most technically adept and musically sensitive violinists performing today.  I consider myself lucky to have heard Mr. Gil Shaham in person and met him backstage.  For all his talent, he is eminently approachable; a very nice fellow.

Gil Shaham performing Pablo Sarasate's Zigeunerweisen, Japan 2007

Best,
Bob

ChessPlayinDude47
fightingbob wrote:
gerberk wrote:

way to go solskytz..lets teach this Liberace at sea  a little Mozart....The higher the KV the better it gets most of the time...the string quintets are awesome...

cheers

Forget it, gerbeck and solskytz, the "Liberace at sea," as you call him, will never be convinced because he's a millennial, perhaps one with ADHD as so many show signs of it; just read between the lines.  He says he likes jazz but then goes on to say he also likes "improvised rock/funk/electronic/heavy/folk/cross-genre fusion music."  I bet his idea of jazz doesn't jibe with mine or most posters here.

He also has an inflated and rather pompous idea of what it means to be an artist.  When Woody Allen wrote of his idol, the deceased master in the genre of film, Ingmar Bergman, he called him the premiere artist of cinema in the 20th century but added that he was also a great entertainer, and so he was for those open to the shades of gray that enfold the human condition.  There was always something that drew you into the story, into the lives of his characters, that was both soulful and entertaining.  The same adjectives can be applied to Mozart, and not just for his operas.

So let's be frank, to say Mozart is boring and merely a pop entertainer is to have no soul.  I doubt this fellow would be moved even by Mozart's Requiem.  Sadly, he is a typical cultural indicator of the millennial generation.  Just come to accept it.

Not to end on a sour note, so to speak, here is one of the most technically adept and musically sensitive violinists performing today.  I consider myself lucky to have heard Mr. Gil Shaham in person and met him backstage.  For all his talent, he is eminently approachable; a very nice fellow.

 

Gil Shaham performing Pablo Sarasate's Zigeunerweisen, Japan 2007

Best,
Bob

Nice! I got to hear Shaham play the Alban Berg Concerto with the San Francisco Symphony, maybe ten years ago, and he did a sterling job - incredible gyrations on stage though, so I closed my eyes and let my ears have all the enjoyment!