Clock-suckers!! - Chess Forums - Page 10

slimcheffy · 2016-02-01T12:25:42-08:00

I play alot of Live 5 minute Blitz games. Recently have noticed there are too many clock-sucking losers here. You know the ones, as soon as they start to lose they don't resign, they don't make a move, they just let the clock run down and waste my freakin time!! I call these players clock-

Mrmath

Feb 7, 2016

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#181

aerodarts wrote:

slimcheffy wrote:

Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

Why you little clocksucker!

Haha I like this.

Gonna play me a game of chess and mate some clocksucker yo.

Good plan, except you can't mate a clocksucker, they don't move their pieces because they are busy sucking your clock, then eventually its over, finished, rather anti-climactic.

Busy sucking clock you say?! I would venture to guess they are busy doing something else! More like whacking a piece off. Anyone getting any satisaction is them. Rather climatic for them, while poor slimcheffy is getting left high and dry and has to cry about it on his Forum Topic. By the way, he had found some new friends! Looks like there is lot of players not getting any satisfaction.

Go die in a hole before my avatar slashes your head off.

Christopher_Parsons

Feb 7, 2016

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#182

Mrmath wrote:

slimcheffy wrote:

sdougherty wrote:

making an opponent wait (on purpose) till time expires to claim his already won game is rude and a waste of time!

exactly! So why do people attack me for bringing up this subject? Maybe the naysayers are clocksuckers themselves.

A certain possiblility.

I tend to think that they want to convince people they should have the right, they in no way are cheating people out of ratings points with poor sportsmanship and pist poor chess ettiquette.

Mrmath

Feb 7, 2016

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#183

slimcheffy wrote:

@aerodarts - clearly you just don't get it. Look at post #156, he gets it, its not difficult to grasp, i wonder why you are so defensive about this? My only conclusion is that once again I have hit too close to home for you. You are a clocksucker.

In addition I find it amusing that you have the nerve to call my post BS, and then you go on to say this quote:

"The one that gets to me is when someone's level of play is vey high and they disable chat. It is very easy to spot someone using a program.The message they are sending is,I am going to cheat you and stop you from at least letting me know I am cheating you." unquote.

So you say high rated players that disable chat are cheating! ....yeah....ok... I'm sure anyone that has beaten you is cheating right?

Remember, idiots will always be idiots. Some idiots will argue a lost cause or stupid point of view even when it's completely useless. Aerodarts must be one of them.

Mrmath

Feb 7, 2016

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#184

slimcheffy wrote:

gmYouLostYourKing wrote:

@Slimcheffy

calm your batteries. didn't anyone teach you "length of time doesn't matter"

maybe your time isn't valuable, but I prefer not to have mine wasted by a bunch of clock sucking losers

Me neither.

Mrmath

Feb 7, 2016

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#185

mdinnerspace wrote:

Get it through ur thick skulls. By accepting a challange to play a game of chess for X amount of time, you agree to the terms. Stop whining about an opponents behavior. Laugh it off or resign. You play for rating points? That is your issue. There are those that cheat, abuse the system, so what? Move on to a good game. All this crying, and I suspect many are playing for the wrong reasons.

I see another idiot who does not realize that only a minority of games end on time.

Mrmath

Feb 7, 2016

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#186

slimcheffy wrote:

mdinnerspace wrote:

Get it through ur thick skulls. By accepting a challange to play a game of chess for X amount of time, you agree to the terms. Stop whining about an opponents behavior. Laugh it off or resign. You play for rating points? That is your issue. There are those that cheat, abuse the system, so what? Move on to a good game. All this crying, and I suspect many are playing for the wrong reasons.

Get it through your thick skull you knuckle dragging neanderthal, abandoning a game is against Chess.com's fair play policy and shold not be tolerated. You seem to think it's ok to have poor etiquette and total disrespect for the game. Chess does not need people like you, give it up, take up solitaire or something more suited to your caveman intellect, hungry hungry hippos perhaps.

One with an IQ of his level shouldn't be able to do anything. I'm surprised that idiot manages to play chess and understands how to use a computer.

Mrmath

Feb 7, 2016

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#187

glamdring27 wrote:

You've played 8 games in live chess, I've played over 6000. I can guarantee a win is a win and a loss is a loss, all equally.

The game tells you what the rating changes will be in the even of win, draw or loss before you make your first move. It doesn't change.

Another idiot, perhaps, that Master Windu should behead?

CrystalMoon

Feb 7, 2016

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#188

Please be relevant, helpful & nice.

Robert_New_Alekhine

Feb 7, 2016

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#189

In before the lock!?

X_PLAYER_J_X

Feb 7, 2016

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#190

Mrmath wrote:

Actually, you need to rethink.

Not every blitz game ends with one player running out of time.

It is possible to both save time and lose time.

I repeat: having an opponent "suck your clock" may save time OR waste time.

It all matters with how quickly the game would end after the losing player stops moving.

Say the doomed player has 2 minutes left on his clock. If the game was going to end more than two minutes after the player stopped moving, time was saved.

But do not forget the inverse: If the game was going to end less than two minutes after the player stopped moving, time was wasted.

However, keep in mind that in most cases, the losing player will be checkmated before his time runs out. If there is inevitable mate and the about-to-lose player makes a move and allows the checkmate, the time spent will be less than his remaining time on the clock.

So, to wrap it up, these "clock suckers" may save time but THEY DO WASTE YOUR TIME THE MAJORITY OF SITUATIONS.

So, in conclusion, X_PLAYER_J_X, you have been proven wrong. Understand that slimcheffy is correct, get rekt and have a nice day.

You and Slimcheffy are both wrong.

I have already explained why wasting time is not possible.

You will only "save time" in chess.

In all chess situation's.

glamdring27

Feb 7, 2016

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#191

In online/daily chess rating changes are dynamic so if your opponent gains or loses rating points then that affects the amount you will gain or lose when the game finally ends.

I guess theoretically the same may be true in live chess for paying members who can play multiple games at the same time, but every live game I have played has ended with exactly the rating change I expected it to from the start of he game, whether I won or lost and by whatever method. I can't speak for other people, just the 6000+ games I have played.

slimcheffy

Feb 7, 2016

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#192

you guys are over complicating this forum, its simple, its not about ratings, it's about people who abandon live blitz games when down in position or material. Why can't they be decent and resign? That's all I ask.

Christopher_Parsons

Feb 7, 2016

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#193

glamdring27 wrote:

In online/daily chess rating changes are dynamic so if your opponent gains or loses rating points then that affects the amount you will gain or lose when the game finally ends.

I guess theoretically the same may be true in live chess for paying members who can play multiple games at the same time, but every live game I have played has ended with exactly the rating change I expected it to from the start of he game, whether I won or lost and by whatever method. I can't speak for other people, just the 6000+ games I have played.

You are completely wrong about the rating changes being dynamic in online chess. They are static and set when th games are first created. I have checked this numerous times, hoping my rating would fall less, as a lower rated opponent that I started out against, suddenly increased in rating, or if I fell from a rating against a lower rated opponent, hoping for very little change, since our ratings were very similar. One thing that would come into play and cause it to be all over the place when you play multiple games as I do in correspondence, is the Glicko rating system's RD factor. However, inspite of this, as I have correctly stated numerous times, the rating changes that are set at the beginning of the game, remain, regardless of how either player's rating changes during the game.

The reason the that I didn't get the full amount of rating change points in the live chess game in which I checked these things thoroughly because, I had plenty of free time, waiting for the clock sucker to timeout, was that you get less points if your opponent times out than if you checkmate your opponent.

After doing more research, I can see that this is argued elsewhere, so I will have to take screen shots and post them as ratings change between meand my opponents, to make my case. Stay tuned.

This today...I will check and update this...

glamdring27

Feb 7, 2016

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#194

Well, again, I can't speak of yours, but I have been pee'd off numerous times when one of my opponents who was rated ~1900 lost a load of games through timeouts so was suddenly playing with a 1500 rating, but still at the level of a 1900 player so when I lost to him I suddenly lost a stack of rating points because his 1500 rating was used, not his previous 1900 rating.

I have also watched opponent ratings in games I am considering resigning as if their rating is rising I will wait a little longer to resign because I lose fewer rating points.

slimcheffy

Feb 7, 2016

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#195

glamdring27 wrote:

Well, again, I can't speak of yours, but I have been pee'd off numerous times when one of my opponents who was rated ~1900 lost a load of games through timeouts so was suddenly playing with a 1500 rating, but still at the level of a 1900 player so when I lost to him I suddenly lost a stack of rating points because his 1500 rating was used, not his previous 1900 rating.

I have also watched opponent ratings in games I am considering resigning as if their rating is rising I will wait a little longer to resign because I lose fewer rating points.

your missing the whole point of this forum,

Christopher_Parsons

Feb 7, 2016

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#196

glamdring27 wrote:

Well, again, I can't speak of yours, but I have been pee'd off numerous times when one of my opponents who was rated ~1900 lost a load of games through timeouts so was suddenly playing with a 1500 rating, but still at the level of a 1900 player so when I lost to him I suddenly lost a stack of rating points because his 1500 rating was used, not his previous 1900 rating.

I have also watched opponent ratings in games I am considering resigning as if their rating is rising I will wait a little longer to resign because I lose fewer rating points.

If you are right, I will recant my testimony publically here regarding that specific issue in correspondence chess. However, it doesn't change whether or not people are being poor sports, wasting other's peoples time, showing disrespect for the players and the game, by intentionally timing out or whether or not they are doing it because, there is a difference in what happens for a win/loss by time out versus, a checkmate. In fact, I would offer to play you a few games and we could test this theory, putting that part of the issue to rest at least. Your ratings are far above my own in blitz chess. This all but assures you'd be able to checkmate me.

mdinnerspace

Feb 7, 2016

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#197

Geez!

Do you play chess for points?

Or pleasure?

Get over it! You agree to a game with X time control.

Live by it! And stop whining about those that abuse. You know it is a possibility to begin with, so please grow up.

Christopher_Parsons

Feb 7, 2016

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#198

mdinnerspace wrote:

Geez!

Do you play chess for points?

Or pleasure?

Get over it! You agree to a game with X time control.

Live by it! And stop whining about those that abuse. You know it is a possibility to begin with, so please grow up.

I don't accept being bullied. If someone tries to bully me, I give them hell. Pick a side, it doesn't matter to me either.

mdinnerspace

Feb 7, 2016

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#199

A little research can save many a headache. 5 minute game? Keep a good book ready or an open browser tab.

mdinnerspace

Feb 7, 2016

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#200

Parsons... rating changes are determined based on whether or not a player has an established rating. 20 games I believe. It may or may not be in transition at the time of your result.