Closing my account because of how many BAD SPORTSMEN there are on this site!!"

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I think the burning question here really is deeper. what kind of sandwich did you make when walked away all smug and proud? did you still eat it or lose your appetite? We all blunder ar every level...and there r thousands of instances per minute on this site of poor sportsmanship but this one is tame to non existent given your outrage over your own mistake. I get the frustration but in person rules cs playing anonymous online has different etiquette. We all do get your point and an in person encounter would have ended differently but you can't expect them not to take advantage of your blunder online

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     But your "answers" are as ridiculous as your original complaint. By the way, if you are really as young as your childish behavior indicates, congratulations on becoming as good a player as you are at such a tender age.

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I was sure your thread was a joke thread. The hysteria sounded like ThrillerFan, for starters. My own reaction to this kind of thing is that I do offer the opponent a draw under some circumstances. If I'm lost but my opponent is going to lose on time, for instance, although never if they've done anything to upset me even slightly. But if I decide I like someone through their chess play, I'll do that. I would never offer a draw to someone who uses premoves, which I consider to be a form of legalised cheating. Remember, that's my opinion, so it doesn't matter if it doesn't conform to your opinion. I never offer a draw to someone who miscues when they're playing fast. That's because they're playing fast to try to build a time advantage so they deserve what they get if they mouse slip.

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The OP says, "Yes I will close my account when I choose to, not when anyone else tells me".

And Heydidi can resign, when he chooses to, not when the OP thinks he should.

Completely Bad Unsportsmanlike Conduct by ChocolateMafia - and most people here agree. He should be Reported and Warned for letting over 15 minutes run out. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour! 

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ChocolateMafia wrote:

I'm done, closing my account, I'm finished with how disgusting some people are!

ChocolateMafia vs. Heydidi | Analysis - Chess.com

This is the straw that broke the camels back!

To give you some context, my blitz and bullet are 1900+ then on a forum post someone told me my rapid grade is low (1500) and I explained it's because I don't play rapid so to prove a point I was getting my rapid up to 1900.

 

Since I was only playing a 1700 I wasn't that focused and I was completely slaughtering him!

So in this game I'm on move 21. g4+ and checkmate is forced! I'm frustrated he hasn't just resigned already, it's actually just insulting he hasn't resigned so in my mind I've already won and I know all the combinations that lead to mate.

I just assumed he would go for Kh4 so I premoved Qh6+ Qxh5# while I went to get some food! I come back and he takes the pawn with the knight!

I explained to him what happened and although I'm panicking I'm polite at first but he just completely ignores me! He should have resigned especially after I explained what happened! This isn't chess!!! It's my win! 

If he wanted to get into a checkmate position then fine, play it out, but you know you're dead lost, so if some stupid accident happens just resign! I WIN! I'VE ALREADY WORKED OUT ALL THE CHECKMATES!

And this isn't the only example of someone being a bad sportsman, people take advantage of mouse slips, let their time run out in tournaments to screw you over and if you're in a completely won position but your internet disconnects the opponent won't be a good sport and resign, they will just let the game abort!

I hate this! Unsportsmanlike Conduct should have consequences!! 

you were the one to make the premove...its not ur opponent's fault u made the premove, nobody told you to, he played like a normal player. the greatest sportsman in the world would be the one to draw in this game, resigning coz of ur fault is out of the question. Its true i usually do offer a draw in these cases, but if my rating goes down too much coz of it, I don't. You can't expect everyone to resign just coz u made a premove turning into a blunder. you had over 12 min left...premove was the worst choice then. agree with the others...stalling for 12 minutes was the unsportsmanlike conduct here

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lfPatriotGames wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
Kowarenai wrote:
ShrekChess69420 wrote:
dohi2 wrote:

To all new chess players: A move made on the board can never be bad sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is what you do off of the board, like trash talk your opponent or send rude messages in the chat. If it's a legal move, it's legal for a reason and your opponent has every right to make it, regardless of the situation.

That's not true. 

that is true tho

Chess is a gentleman's game. The superior man of mind wins. But, by promoting 5 knights and delaying an inevitable checkmate, you're really just taunting your opponent, and it shows bad sportsmanship. 

I don't understand this. If someone promotes to 5 knights, (or 5 of anything or doesn't promote at all) I don't understand how that's bad sportsmanship. The position on the board doesn't care what someone promotes to. Only the two people playing care. 

As someone else said, if the move is legal, it can't be bad sportsmanship. And, of course, there is no such thing as "inevitable checkmate". I think the OP proved that beyond a reasonable doubt. 

The reasons someone might want to promote to 5 knights is absolutely none of the opponents business. Maybe they want to practice their knight skills, maybe they want to intentionally  get into a complicated position to test their calculating. Maybe they wanted to burn time so they could practice their time pressure skills. Doesn't matter. The opponents job is to try to win (or draw) with 5 new knights on the board. 

I think people forget chess is a game, with sometimes unpredictable outcomes. So if an opponent promotes 5 knights, use that opportunity to do something unique or something you haven't done before. 

yeah exactly, its not bad sportsmanship cause the opponent still chooses to play if anything it could be counted as his own fault for wanting to continue being taunted but its not the fault of the 2 players, you just have to let them keep playing until they choose to end. there is nothing gentlemen about chess in this era and i dont quite understand why people would call it gentlemen like especially in online speed chess where its more of a competitive war than anything else i have seen but yeah again i completely agree with everything you said

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AussieRookie wrote:

The OP says, "Yes I will close my account when I choose to, not when anyone else tells me".

And Heydidi can resign, when he chooses to, not when the OP thinks he should.

Completely Bad Unsportsmanlike Conduct by ChocolateMafia - and most people here agree. He should be Reported and Warned for letting over 15 minutes run out. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour! 

 

I was using the time on the clock to give my opponent the opportunity to be a good sportsman as I've already said. The fact you can see how bad of a sportsman my opponent was means we just live in two completely different worlds.

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On April 4, ChocolateMafia had K v R+K after 72 moves, with plenty of time left each, yet he kept on going for another 22 moves until he was mated on move 94. He was completely lost on move 72. Why didn't he resign then? He wants to tell others when to resign, but the same rules don't apply to him,it seems.

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AussieRookie wrote:

On April 4, ChocolateMafia had K v R+K after 72 moves, with plenty of time left each, yet he kept on going for another 22 moves until he was mated on move 94. He was completely lost on move 72. Why didn't he resign then? He wants to tell others when to resign, but the same rules don't apply to him,it seems.

There is a small precentage the opponent don’t know how to checkmate with a rook (99% he would know though), or he thought about  stalemate .

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1800s know how to mate with a Rook.

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AussieRookie wrote:

1800s know how to mate with a Rook.

That’s why I said 1%. Also, I mentioned stalemate.

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I've only just looked at the game in question. The opponent is definitely trolling because Nxg4 was black's only possible move. It doesn't matter whether mate is forced, since it's the only move that avoids an immediate checkmate. Therefore the O.P. is definitely trolling or joking, because the alternative is that he's exceptionally stupid and I don't think that's the case. So the joke's on you lot.

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Optimissed wrote:

I've only just looked at the game in question. The opponent is definitely trolling because Nxg4 was black's only possible move. It doesn't matter whether mate is forced, since it's the only move that avoids an immediate checkmate. Therefore the O.P. is definitely trolling or joking, because the alternative is that he's exceptionally stupid and I don't think that's the case. So the joke's on you lot.

He might didn’t see the knight sacrifice as possibility? 

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In any case, black was such an obviously weak player, moving bishops around because he refused to swap them for knights even when it was to black's advantage to do so, that anyone who is so desperate to beat such a player is not a strong player. If the O.P.'s as strong as he claims, winning or losing sich a game would be immaterial. He would make up for it next game. I think the O.P.is a strong player. Therefore he's joking.

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ChessSBM wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I've only just looked at the game in question. The opponent is definitely trolling because Nxg4 was black's only possible move. It doesn't matter whether mate is forced, since it's the only move that avoids an immediate checkmate. Therefore the O.P. is definitely trolling or joking, because the alternative is that he's exceptionally stupid and I don't think that's the case. So the joke's on you lot.

He might didn’t see the knight sacrifice as possibility? 

It's black's only move and it was obvious because the knight is there in plain view. It isn't hiding anywhere. Therefore he saw it.

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Optimissed wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I've only just looked at the game in question. The opponent is definitely trolling because Nxg4 was black's only possible move. It doesn't matter whether mate is forced, since it's the only move that avoids an immediate checkmate. Therefore the O.P. is definitely trolling or joking, because the alternative is that he's exceptionally stupid and I don't think that's the case. So the joke's on you lot.

He might didn’t see the knight sacrifice as possibility? 

It's black's only move. Therefore he saw it.

Kh4 is another best move.

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ChessSBM wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I've only just looked at the game in question. The opponent is definitely trolling because Nxg4 was black's only possible move. It doesn't matter whether mate is forced, since it's the only move that avoids an immediate checkmate. Therefore the O.P. is definitely trolling or joking, because the alternative is that he's exceptionally stupid and I don't think that's the case. So the joke's on you lot.

He might didn’t see the knight sacrifice as possibility? 

It's black's only move. Therefore he saw it.

Kh4 is another best move.

Incorrect because it loses in one move. That's the move you don't play.

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Close your account already. What are you waiting for?

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Optimissed wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
ChessSBM wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

I've only just looked at the game in question. The opponent is definitely trolling because Nxg4 was black's only possible move. It doesn't matter whether mate is forced, since it's the only move that avoids an immediate checkmate. Therefore the O.P. is definitely trolling or joking, because the alternative is that he's exceptionally stupid and I don't think that's the case. So the joke's on you lot.

He might didn’t see the knight sacrifice as possibility? 

It's black's only move. Therefore he saw it.

Kh4 is another best move.

Incorrect because it loses in one move. That's the move you don't play.

Both moves are mate in 2 bruh

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If anyone has the attitude that a game's lost before it's lost, they shouldn't be playing chess. Chess is a forced draw if both sides play optimal moves. An optimal move is one that doesn't degrade the draw into a loss in any continuation. So maybe everyone should just look at the starting position and shake hands on a draw. Otherwise, you are playing the opponent and NOT playing the board.