I've stopped posting stats on TT (Formerly Complaint about my comments on TT)

"When players post their individual results, it gives the training experience a more personal, human touch, which I do appreciate."

I guess I find this reasoning a little too vague :) It's like saying one prefers the comments because they just... feel nice inside; but I'm not sure what that really means :)

I would think an emotional reaction would feel more personal than numbers in any case.

Elubas wrote:  There are some purposes one can speculate about. I mean, I'm sure chess.com wouldn't recommend talking about your favorite cereal in a TT section .....        I love Froot Loops!  LOL

"And I said, I have seen something like that, and found it amusing"

It seems like you are attributing a little too much power to finding something amusing. Anyone can find anything amusing, but one can still make arguments about relevance. If I went to a video game store and saw they were also selling a really cool basketball, maybe it would make me excited for some reason. Nevertheless, overall it doesn't seem like a good decision to just randomly include a basketball in a store that sells just games, even if some good can come out of it :)

"I chose the latter for it's more personal and human touch :)"

What is more tender and personal than a bunch of people politely discussing their thoughts about a problem? :D

First of all, I take back my insinuations about OP censorship, since it turned out they were unwarranted.

I do think that statistics are not helping the community, neither "nice tactics" posts, so that they should not be posted, but again, I am no thought police.

As for the thing that the most recent posts appear last on TT comments it actually makes the thing worse. It means that when I get a notification of a new TT comment, unlike for threads/vote chess matches where I just click on the notification and voilà, here I need to scroll down to the latest comment (that's ok) when it is still on first page, otherwise I have to click on a 4x8 pixels hyperlink (this really stinks) for the last page to appear.

When I finally discover a "got it, lol" or "87%, 17s, 2056 (+17)" that I don't care about, I do get angry about the commenter. What exactly do they think it brings to the people who can read that comment?

There are technical ways around this - the system of "most recent first", or at least notifications sending you to the right page. But with what we have, this is the state of things.

In any case, tonightatsix, I see you have benefited a lot from those kind of posts, and I can't take that away from you. I think it's a hard issue to settle. On one hand, one can always appeal to relativism. But at the same time, one can take relativism so far that they stop considering rationality and just ask what their heart wants -- not always the most practical thing to do. I'm not really sure what category this falls into, but I want you to know that I very much respect your opinion.

TT is a very nice system because as you solve more problems, the rating goes up, until you get more challenging ones. Indeed, eventually you run into puzzles that try to punish you for being impulsive, puzzles that either have no flashy check or it does have one, but it leads nowhere.

One of the cool things about chess actually, I think, is that even when we are told there is a tactic, and know that we're supposed to look at "weird sacrifices" and stuff, some puzzles are still really hard. It's like we are given an open book test, and no matter how long we study we'll still end up failing somehow.

First of all, I would like to announce that I have stopped posting anything for days on TT so I am not actively offending (?) haha

Elubas & Irontiger, I am not saying that polite discussions about the puzzles are wrong.  They are very good :) And yes, there should be more of them :)   

Guys, if you don't see what I (and some other people) see interesting interesting or find what I (and some other people) find useful useful, then you don't see what you don't see and I accept that.  I don't think anybody wants to hear me reiterate my perspective one more time.  I said what I have said and I stand by my position :)  And thank you for being understanding of some of the things that I have said :)

Having said that, have you guys noticed something different about the TT comment section lately?   --------------  There have been not many new comments.  haha!  I see lots and lots of new puzzles and mostly blank pages.  Maybe people are getting wind of the discussion going on here :)  Maybe you guys can expect clean pages............. for a short while....... until people forget what has been discussed and it wll be back to  "Easy!" and "100%!" again. haha    

I think a separate comment section for analysis only would be good.  And if people can just track that, that would be useful, wouldn't it?  Then the stats people don't have to get harrassed any more. lol! (just kidding! ;))     

Hi Annabella :) love your cereal box :)  If I saw the box on TT, I would probably laugh   but should you choose to post it as a joke, watch out for the thunderbolts from the TT gods lol ;)

"I think a separate comment section for analysis only would be good.  And if people can just track that, that would be useful, wouldn't it?  Then the stats people don't have to get harrassed any more. lol! (just kidding! ;)) "

Yeah but then people would have to keep track of two different sections for each tactic, which could get tedious. Or someone might post in the wrong one, etc.

"but should you choose to post it as a joke, watch out for the thunderbolts from the TT gods lol ;)"

You should still respect their opinion; I think a cereal box would be a cause for concern, at least, too many of them, but then again, that's just my relative opinion :). But no, it's not something worth yelling about, just pointing out gently.

Yes, Elubas :)  And I realize that persevering through this stage is very important.  If I truly wanted to "improve", I see that this is where my real learning begins.  Lately, doing the harder puzzles, often times I felt like I reached into my brain and looked for resources to handle the situation, and found that I have exhausted everything,  and I felt like....."This is it.  This is the limit...." And I just wanted to give up. 

I hope I don't get too discouraged and keep at it.  Thank you for your encouragement, Elubas :)   

"until people forget what has been discussed and it wll be back to  "Easy!" and "100%!" again. haha"

I've never heard from you directly, but I am curious, are you ok with these comments too? Or perhaps just indifferent about them?

"and I felt like....."This is it.  This is the limit...." And I just wanted to give up."

The thing is though, one's "limit" can always change as they improve :) What might seem hard at one point could eventually become quite easy. But yeah I know what you mean when you say your brain "exhausts all resources possible." Eventually your mind learns to question your initial prejudices about a position, what could work and what couldn't work, and allows you to find things that are less obvious. It comes with experience.

If they just say "100%!" or "Easy!" with nothingelse, I do find them vaguely annoying.  But I don't think about them too much because there are so many of them (almost all of them are doing this) -- I am resigned to the fact that a lot of people like to make these types of comments. 

And since this is the internet open to the world, I expect that I will see all types of people.

This discussion has been an eye opener for me, too, in that I got to know how people felt about the comments and I also got to think about why I was doing what I was doing (leaving those stats) and how I felt about other comments on TT.

I hope so :)  I think I have enough potential to become a comfortable OTB 1600+.  That is my goal for now :) 

You said -- "Eventually your mind learns to question your initial prejudices about a position, what could work and what couldn't work, and allows you to find things that are less obvious. It comes with experience." 

That would be excellent:) I hope this happens. 

1600 is definitely doable (no alliteration intended lol). I wish you the best of luck.

Thank you, Elubas :)  I hope I do it. 

Good luck & happy chess playing to everyone! :) 

you think bear cares about your comments hahhhahhahaha! bear doesn't care about your "comments" and there's good reason why bear doesn't care. bear knows things.

All they need to do is make comments votable like Chess Tempo, problem solved. Comments with too many negative votes get auto-hidden, and you have to click something to show them.

Or better yet, just use Chess Tempo instead.

This is how I see it....people are free to type and comment whatever they want.  Nothing can stop them!