There are cheaters everywhere, no more no less in correspondence. At least at chess.com most people playing "Online Chess" (why don't they call it correspondence?!) just want some time to think about their moves. I've had all my games analyzed by fritz and if my opponents meant to cheat they were ultra subtle since fritz frowns upon many moves (mine included I am sorry to say...) not to say total blunders.
Computers killed correspondence chess?
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The only way you'll know if it's something that you'll enjoy is to give it a try.
If you want to play in ICCF tournaments then sure, try it out. There are many players that play without computer assistance.
Jan 19, 2014
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Vladimurr wrote:
There are cheaters everywhere, no more no less in correspondence. At least at chess.com most people playing "Online Chess" (why don't they call it correspondence?!) just want some time to think about their moves. I've had all my games analyzed by fritz and if my opponents meant to cheat they were ultra subtle since fritz frowns upon many moves (mine included I am sorry to say...) not to say total blunders.
He's talking about playing on servers like ICCF for real ratings and prize money, where computer assistance is allowed.
Yes, I'm talking about real ratings and money prizes. I can't understand what's the fun in playing assisted by an engine.
Xeelfiar wrote:
Yes, I'm talking about real ratings and money prizes. I can't understand what's the fun in playing assisted by an engine.
Ah sorry. Me neither. Also applies to real rating and money prizes ;)
I think part of what draws all the cheaters here, is the fact that this site has the most people. It just comes with the territory.
Many ICCF matches allow computer use.
If you find OTB stressful, perhaps that is a good thing? Try playing some more games to get more comfortable with it and in the future turn your anxiety into a resource.
Xeelfiar wrote:
Hi, I'd like to try correspondence chess because I find OTB play a bit stressing, but nowadays there are computers, so I don't think it's so fun to play if there is computer assistence.
Correspondence Chess is dominated by centaurs that's why I gave it up (played for 25 years) there's no point paying to enter tournaments and the $35+ yearly membership dues when the other guy is determined to do what whatever he wants in order for CC Chess to work players have to follow a code of honor there needs to be trust and cooperation from compeitors to follow the rules.
In tournaments organised by ICCF engine use is permitted; in tournaments organised by national federations different rules may apply. Here in Australia engine use is prohibited in postal chess but permitted in tournaments played on the ICCF webserver.
Even with an engine it takes great skill and understanding to defeat an opponent who is also using an engine. There is a big difference between a top correspondence grandmaster and a player who just follows his engine.
Hi, I'm the OP. Some say that there isn't so much problem because computers don't understand strategy, but I like to play sharp openings, so I fear that if i play on servers like ICCF all the games would end in a computer vs computer match
chess_gg wrote:
I don't know what your problem is. There are more options and methods of playing chess than in all the previous history of the game.
You seem to not want the stress of OTB play, but you are worried about cheaters, you want to win prize money (when you are a novice, yet), you want real-world ratings, but don't want to play in the real world...
I think you need to get your head screwed on a little better.
Amen to that.
I'm not saying that I see the glass empty, just asking for an opinion.
The problem is that I really don't understand what's the fun in playing most of the games following computer lines and databases for 20-30 moves
Jan 21, 2014
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You have no-engine tournaments on LSS (former IECG).
There are countries that don´t allow computers in their national correspondence ches tournaments.
You can play here.
You are not going to win money prizes with correspondence chess anyway, so why do you worry so much?.
Do you really like playing chess? You only have played 4 games here.
Right now I can't play chess because I have some problems BTW
I agree... computers kill correspondence chess...
Its not fun to play against a computer. You have to trust, I mean really trust in other people to play correspondence.
In the end it doesn't matter if the opponent is using an engine or otherwise cheating. You are still playing chess, playing the game itself.
eltodesukane wrote:
In the end it doesn't matter if the opponent is using an engine or otherwise cheating. You are still playing chess, playing the game itself.
Yes it matter... If you want to play against a computer, you play alone...
A correspondence game takes a long time to do until a game is finish. to waste time with computer is bad... Its not like a cheater in a blitz game of 5 minutes... its worse
Get an engine and try playing a few games (there are some available here) where engines are allowed. As you like correspondence chess I am going to be surprised if it does not turn out that you like that form of correspondence chess also.
If it turns out you can hold your own against, say, Ponz, then it will be time to consider the tournaments with prize money.
Hi, I'd like to try correspondence chess because I find OTB play a bit stressing, but nowadays there are computers, so I don't think it's so fun to play if there is computer assistence. Yes, I know that here I can play without computers and that's good, but having a "real" rating and competing in tournaments can be very fun. What do you think?