it's the best compromise we can make. i'm sorry if that doesn't satisfy you. :(
Well. Nothing more I can say then, as one person cannot affect policy. But don't hide behind the "it's a private forum" please. Just say, We disagree that groups like those you mention pose a problem, we draw the line in a different place than you do, and we won't censure them. That's honest at least. Because I do believe if there was a group that advocated murder or some other crime, your policy would be less hands off. I believe it is uncontionable to turn women and girls into sex objects for the sake of a private chess group - others do not - I am in the minority, end of discussion, I'm off to play chess for as long as my paid membership lasts and forget about it.
Taking down Danielle's original thread was outrageous and ill-informed... particularly in light of the fact that we are daily treated to such irrelevant rubbish focused on women and girls who play chess and those threads go on for days and are never deleted. But one woman pointing out bad behaviour by more than a few men is chastised. Unbelievable. Family atmosphere? There are entire groups on this site dedicated to objectifying women as sex objects and they have dozens of members and they play team matches and vote chess under the banner of hot-lady-love-chess or whatever and no word about why they exist on a "family fun site" -- but a woman starting a discussion asking for more decency is chastised... again... beggars belief.
from what i heard (i didn't read it) it wasn't the message of the thread, but the tone.
i takes these issues VERY seriously. i have 3 daughters and am highly concerned about the view of women and would support any thread in defense of a better viewpoint. however, from what i was told this thread was just abusive in reverse.
Well, I disagree that the original post was bashing in reverse, as all she said was 'dear men stop saying these things to me and other women'. Okay if the point was that she should have made only a private complaint to the moderators, but I completely understand her desire to open discussion on this.
Erik if you are as serious as you seem about the view of girls and women on this site, then I will take you at your word and make an abuse report about the 3 groups (at least) that I have come across that I cannot believe you are aware about as admin, as I cannot see how aparent would either want their daughter a member of or objectified by... certainly if Danielle's thread was deemed iappropriate, these groups cannot be either.
as i stated before, i did not get to read the initial forum. i'm sorry it is gone.
as for the other groups... private groups and public forums are different :( and i'm hardly aware of all of the groups on the site - there are so many - and they are private.
these are really tough calls to make. we are always walking the line between offending people for being too harsh or too lenient. we will never make everyone happy. so we try to be conservative in the public forums and handsoff in the private ones. it's the best compromise we can make. i'm sorry if that doesn't satisfy you. :(