Critical lines in the king's Indian Fianchetto Variation

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Recently I opened a topic about the King's Indian for white. After some thought I decided to try the fianchetto variation which is solid and doesn't allow the usual counter play by black (at least it is not so easy to launch a king side attack).

What do you think of this variation? Which are the critical lines?

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yes, I meant the King's indian defense- Thank you

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Forget about learning lines, learn centers and piece placement.

These are the two setups you will usually face. Study games that feature it.

 

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yes, black can play with c6 and -bg4 or -bf5, Nc6 or Nbd7, but I think white is always slightly better

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"White is slightly better", that can be said for all mainlines yet it is meaningless. The better player will always win.

Worry about positions that you understand and make you feel at home rather than theoretical advantageous positions.

IMHO.

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 @ChePlaSsYer KID is forgiving, but have given two lines without c6 which is pretty thematic. I would have not relied on any of them.

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shcherbak wrote:

 @ChePlaSsYer KID is forgiving, but have given two lines without c6 which is pretty thematic. I would have not relied on any of them.

What are you talking about? I'm posting the starting/iconic positions and piece placement.

Black usually plays c6 in the Orthodox Center, but I wouldn't consider that the tabiya.

The Panno is one of Black's best replies against the Fianchetto, why would you not rely on it?

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ChePlaSsYer wrote:
shcherbak wrote:

 @ChePlaSsYer KID is forgiving, but have given two lines without c6 which is pretty thematic. I would have not relied on any of them.

What are you talking about? I'm posting the starting/iconic positions and piece placement.

Black usually plays c6 in the Orthodox Center, but I wouldn't consider that the tabiya.

The Panno is one of Black's best replies against the Fianchetto, why would you not rely on it?

I could ask the same question.

 "Forget about learning lines, learn centers and piece placement."

You have given two top table lines:

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 Nf3 d6 5 g3 O-O 6 Bg2 Nbd7 7 O-O e5 8 e4 (Clasical)

1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 Nf3 d6 5 g3 O-O 6 Bg2 Nc6 7 O-O a6 (Panno)

Yet there is a bit more for black than that. Even d6 is one of choices and even with d6 black is still flexible to choose what structure to go for. So instead of knight (Nc6 or Ndb7) I'd recommend to focus on black c pawn and protecting e file.

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I dont know what you are talking about nor what point are you trying to make, those are the 2 tabiyas for the Fianchetto KID and the ones that will probably reward you the most if you correctly study and understand them.

What do you mean by focusing on black's c-pawn and protecting the e-file? 

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I drew a GM over the board last week with the fianchetto line, it's quite solid. The main themes are a) h3 to prevent g4 shenanigans, Re1 to indirectly defend the pawn (in many lines white can protect the pawn by having be3-d2, which often goes to a queen vs. rook and bishop endgame where white has winning chances), and the slow build of f3-f4. However, there are a TON of concrete lines and black has many different plan you need to know how to respond to.