D4 is better than E4 and C4 and its also whatever works best for you

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KentexplorerchessW
crazedrat1000 wrote:
KentexplorerchessW wrote:

Every antisicilian is bad. The Alapin Sicilian is bad for White. Look at every antisicilian, then look at the advantage; it always drops. Yes, you are correct: the Najdorf is a great opening for White; however, most often the Najdorf ends in a draw most of the time. When people lose against the antisicilians, it is because they haven't experienced enough of that line, but most antisicilians are bad; even if White has a slight advantage with these, it's still less, which is bad. Also in the Sicilian, there are many great variations with the Najdorf because of the fact that the Najdorf is a deep opening for both sides to have strong ideas that are barely stoppable. But often people who know enough about the book in the Sicilian have very high levels in elo, often making stuff like the Najdorf end in a draw. Again, there have also been crazy brilliant games for both white and black with many brilliant moves, and often each has had great defeats and great wins. Though yes, white or black don't have to choose a Najdorf Sicilian; they can choose other lines, but the only other great lines for white are the nf3 Sicilian traditional line, the open Sicilian stonewall, and also, at some levels, the McDonnell attack. Often it is also a great idea for Black to keep the Sicilian closed because White's goal vs the Sicilian can sometimes be to open it up and start crazy attacks, often having Black lose, but I have seen most brilliant games with Black keeping a closed Sicilian. Often open Sicilian is better for White and closed better for Black because Black actually gets great positions where they can hop in white position and start some kind of attack. In conclusion, it's a great opening for Black if they know every antisicilian counter often leads to Black's win, and with many other lines leading to draws, usually Black only loses if they blunder or open the position.

Not all anti-sicilians are created equal. The Smith Morra is probably the worst anti-sicilian. I wouldn't rate the McDonnell up there very high, either - white may as well play a Grand Prix at that point.

Black isn't the one who chooses whether to enter an anti-sicilian or an open sicilian, that's up to white.

The Najdorf is an Nf3 "open sicilian" line, and black is the one who decides whether to play 2... Nc6, 2... d6, or 2... e6. So I'm not sure what you're talking about there either. Never heard of the "sicilian stonewall" either.

I don't know why you're trying to debate this anyway, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about... you're 11 years old. You have not even been alive and cognisant long enough to know how to play the sicilian. I've been playing the sicilian almost as long as you've been alive, at this point.

a) if white white knows the open lines they're good for white. It's alot of theory, but...
b) if black doesn't know the anti-sicilian theory it can be bad for him.

Hence it's up to white to decide whether he wants to buckle down and study very hard, and play the open lines... or go for a more practical approach with some anti-sicilian lines - but not the Smith Morra. In either case the better player is likely to win. Sicilian is one of the most classic openings in chess, it is played at all levels in all time formats.

if youv'e played the Sicilian double the amount I play chess then why am I over half your rating Im not bad at the sicilian I know quite a lot of good lines Ive studied openings over half my chess career mainly the queens gambit Jobava London and Sicilian I know enough about the Sicilian.

crazedrat1000

Half of your chess career is like 1 year. You are an 11 year old. It's a meaningless statement.

You literally just said you learned all the sicilian theory in 9 games. 
There are 13 open sicilians for black, so even in theory your claim is impossible.
There are people who spend decades studying just the Najdorf alone. The fact you believe you learned all the theory in the sicilian within 9 games is just a testament to how unaware you are. Which is not a surprise, since you're 11.

Maybe by age 12 you will have developed the brain volume to realize there are limitations to what you know. But as of this time in your development, you don't have that awareness.

KentexplorerchessW

najdorf, tradiotional line, bowdler attack, Smith morra, Magnus Sicilian, wayward queen Sicilian, alapin Sicilian, rank Sicilian, closed Sicilian, o'kelly sicilian, grand prix attack, mcdonnell attack

KentexplorerchessW

I have bad memory so it took me a while to think

crazedrat1000

There are 4-6 variations of just the Closed Sicilian white can go for, depending on how Black responds. And the theory of your typical club-level player branches out and goes out to at least move 10. At higher levels people remain in theory up to move 12-15, sometimes even deeper.

KentexplorerchessW

I am the smartest kid in my grade my math level is ready for college claimed by tests I am aware that you underestimate kids like me my brain is well developed my entire life I had 1 c and I didn't mean I learned all theory in 9 games I meant learned enough theory in 9 games.

KentexplorerchessW

highest book in the Sicilian is 19 book moves each player possibly even more if you look at my dumbest games forum

KentexplorerchessW

I know lots of theory best in an actual game is probably 13 white 12 black of the semislav defense I don't often get that because everybody at my level barley knows there playing book after the 5th book move.

crazedrat1000
KentexplorerchessW wrote:

najdorf, tradiotional line, bowdler attack, Smith morra, Magnus Sicilian, wayward queen Sicilian, alapin Sicilian, rank Sicilian, closed Sicilian, o'kelly sicilian, grand prix attack, mcdonnell attack

Only 1 of these is on the list of the 13 main open sicilian lines. Most of the rest you've named are anti-sicilians, and many of them are never played since they're just bad - i.e. wayward queen sicilian.
See, you don't even know what an open sicilian is. 
People rarely play O'Kelly but we could count it, it usually transposes w/ the Najdorf or Taimanov though.

Hyperaccelerated Dragon, Lowenthall, Kan, Taimanov Bastrikov, Taimanov w/ a6, Nimzowitsch, Four Knights, Najdorf, Classical, Dragon, Sveshnikov, Accelerated Dragon, Scheveningen. Those are the viable open sicilians black can choose from. 
You've mentioned 1 so far, the Najdorf.

KentexplorerchessW

I don't know how to play the najdorf so I play different sicilians I know its name and its idea.

KentexplorerchessW

I forgot taimonov Sicilian

KentexplorerchessW

an NM tried playing a Sicilian dragon against me when I played d4

crazedrat1000

The point is you're debating people about the sicilian, and whether the Open vs. Anti-Sicilian lines are viable for white, when you don't even know what the Open sicilians are. This indicates a lack of self awareness and yes, it is mostly due to a lack of brain development. Which is okay, since we all lacked brain development at some point - but when you begin debating with the adults as if you know more then them... it becomes not ok, and I correct you, and put you in your place since you are an 11 year old.

fiancetto against d4 is not the dragon sicilian.

KentexplorerchessW

the accelerated dragon he showed was possible I don't know why he though you could play the Sicilian against d4 I know the four knight I feel stupid to forget that I know the nimzowitch played it before Ive also played the classical I got the wayward queen Sicilian against people Ive seen all those being played and how is the tradiotional Sicilian not a real Sicilian lines I also got the O Kelly which could count right I know a lot just very forgetful cuz I have giant ADHD.

KentexplorerchessW

I know I dont know why he though he was playing the sicilian when he was playing the old Benoni defense

crazedrat1000

In just the Najdorf alone there are 10 viable responses from white, each of them have a very large amount of theory that goes along with them. You cannot learn the theory in a sicilian from one game, that is just nonsense.

KentexplorerchessW

Ive played the open sicilian I know what it is I thought you said sicilians not open sicilian.

crazedrat1000

You can reach an accelerated dragon from a Modern or a Benoni depending on how white plays it, but not reliably.

crazedrat1000

I said open sicilians. I named the 13 open sicilians that are viable for black. The open sicilian is simply any sicilian which arises after 2. Nf3 > 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4

KentexplorerchessW

nobody at my level plays the najdorf how can I play the najdorf against a different 1000 ELO I hate 1000 because THEY NEVER EVER PLAY BOOK FOR 7 moves even I also don't like the najdorf