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Me- Dumb At ThinkingWink

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trysts wrote:

Me- Dumb At Thinking

Dat Acronym fo' That

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So many awkward moments...so little time...

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Dat awkward moment when having an abundance of moments means you also have an abundance of time Laughing

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You're turning this into philosophy, Mika_RaoLaughing

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It's interesting because, I was thinking recently, what it would be like to die.

No one knows, because you can't reflect on death.  To "experience" you have to wait for it to record in your memory when you can reflect on it.

Similarly you can't experience your last thoughts 0_o

Dat awkward moment when...

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Maybe you just can't communicate your last thoughts;)

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I suppose I mean, your very final moment.  You can reflect on your last thought.  But you don't get to experience your last moment of life.

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I picked a good night to be on Chess.com! Everyone's getting philosophical and acronymisticLaughing

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It's interesting to me (maybe only when I get tired so maybe it sounds dumb to you?) but if death can't be evaluated as bad by those who die, it's not intuitive/expected how strongly we associate death and killing with pain and morality.

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If Santa's elves do not exist, then what is it we are talking about when we say Santa's elves? Even if they exist only as an idea, they still exist, as that idea. Therefore, Santa's elves exist.

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The fear of death is, I think, not so much a fear of pain as a fear of the loss of conciousness, of an impending nothingness, of never being able to do "stuff" again.

Mine's a fear of pain. 

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I said pain because of morality.  How can something be immoral when it doesn't cause harm in some way?  How can death itself be painful when you can't experience it?

But you're right it's not the fear of the unknown as much as the fear of no longer experiencing... which seems to be an unintuitive attitude.

I guess it's necessarily true that any long lived species would find itself instinctively cling to life.

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owltuna wrote:

The fear of death is, I think, not so much a fear of pain as a fear of the loss of conciousness, of an impending nothingness, of never being able to do "stuff" again.

Mine's a fear of pain. 

How can death hurt if you can't feel it?  You can feel the sickness or pain before death, but I'm guessing what you call your fear of death is something different than your fear of sickness or pain in general.

Or is it?

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How can death hurt if you can't feel it?  You can feel the sickness or pain before death, but I'm guessing what you call your fear of death is something different than your fear of sickness or pain in general.

Or is it?

It takes a lot to die. It must be the worst pain you've ever experienced. Why do you think you can't feel it?

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Mika_Rao wrote:
 

How can death hurt if you can't feel it?  You can feel the sickness or pain before death, but I'm guessing what you call your fear of death is something different than your fear of sickness or pain in general.

Or is it?

It takes a lot to die. It must be the worst pain you've ever experienced. Why do you think you can't feel it?

Death is the singular moment between your alive self and your dead self.

Is the pain and sickness leading to death markedly different from that which normally occurs through life?  Other than in exceptional circumstances such as torture how could you say yes?... and even then I could ask if your fear of death is different than your fear of torture which doesn't lead to death.

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....Also, due to your comments in other topics, I think it's interesting to ask you if you would say torture is also just a frame of mind.

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Mika_Rao wrote:
 

Death is the singular moment between your alive self and your dead self.

Is the pain and sickness leading to death markedly different from that which normally occurs through life?  Other than in exceptional circumstances such as torture how could you say yes?... and even then I could ask if your fear of death is different than your fear of torture which doesn't lead to death.

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....Also, due to your comments in other topics, I think it's interesting to ask you if you would say torture is also just a frame of mind.

I don't know anything about "death", such as whether the pain you feel before dying is similar to other types of pain you've had in life, but it seems like you would have pain. Maybe the last second of life before you die is timeless? Like it's not just a second, but rather there is no longer the experience of time, just the feeling of pain? No-one's ever discussed it or has been able to communicate it in human history, so I don't know?

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Attributing a special time or feeling to death seems supernatural to me.  It's a moment just like any other in your life.  It just happens to be the last moment...  that's how I think of it anyway.

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Attributing a special time or feeling to death seems supernatural to me.  It's a moment just like any other in your life.  It just happens to be the last moment...  that's how I think of it anyway.

Supernatural? What do you mean? I know that I've had the experience of things seeming to go in slow motion. Like being in a car accident where time seems to slow down. Maybe that moment of death is like that, but only you don't come out of the slowing down?

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That doesn't make any sense to me, sorry Smile