Deep Fritz 13 vs. Houdini - It's On!

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DazedKnight
JamieKowalski wrote:

I'd like to challenge the winner to a game against Critter, if you're up to it.

Sounds great.

In the current game, I castled Queenside. Here's the new main line and variations, as Deep Fritz sees them:

JamieKowalski

Thanks for the update. It's definitely gotten a lot more interesting in the last couple of moves.

DazedKnight
JRoma wrote:

I agree - this is getting good.  Sure, if I manage to beat Deep Fritz I will play Critter next. 

I let Houdini crunch for 2 days straight.  When I checked it was expecting 15.h4 and wanted to play ...d4.  It seemed to roughly think 15.0-0-0 was about the same evaluation, and was somewhat unstable between the two.

I think it wanted to play ...d4 in response to 0-0-0 also, but I'm at work and I will make sure before I play when I get home tonight.

Interesting, Deep is not expecting the d4 after the long castle.  The engines have definitely diverged.

h4 was Deep Fritz's other choice for a move, but using deeper analysis, it selected 0-0-0. It is quite apparent that Houdini is winning.

JamieKowalski

"Winning" might be a little strong, but it certainly looks like it has at least an edge.

JamieKowalski

Critter did see the d4+b6 theme a few moves ago, so that's pretty cool.

MrEnigma

Can we see the postion upadted every couple of moves, with pgn, and computer thoughts in a single post?

DazedKnight

JamieKowalski

I'm not a big fan of the Bb5 move. Black should play 16...Ne7, after which I see two main lines here:

17. Nxd5 Nxd5 18. Qxd5 Qf6 and White is looking less and less safe.

or

17. c6 a6 and the bishop needs to find another good square. The c pawn will fall, and Black will take the c file pointing right against White's position.

DazedKnight

iixxPROxxii

I'd wondering how Houdini would do against stockfish.

rooperi
iixxPROxxii wrote:

I'd wondering how Houdini would do against stockfish.

Here's a themed opening game, houdini 1.5 vs stockfish 2

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/steinitz-scotch-what-the-engines-say

JamieKowalski

There's no way this could be good for Fritz.

atarw

Where do you buy Houdini? 

I thought there was only Houdini 1.5

On the site, there isn't a mention of Houdini 2 or 3.

ictavera

Current pgn:

Why 23.Rhe1? And after, why not 23...Bxf2?

VLaurenT

Well, with the opposite-coloured bishops and no easy way for Black to activate one of his rooks, I still bet on a draw Smile

Martin0

I think it would be fun if Houdini would win, but currently I agree white should be able to draw.

iixxPROxxii

I can't wait to see what wins.

JamieKowalski

Also predicting a draw.

DazedKnight

Interestingly, I'm playing off analysis the PC did several days ago... the past several moves from Houdini are coming exactly as expected by Fritz.

DazedKnight

Well, after a little more than a month, we're getting down to the nitty gritty of this match. It looks like both engines will gobble up pawns, and slowly grind to a draw. Thanks everyone for taking part.