Deep Rybka 4

i need something which is faster than rybka 4 . by fast i dont mean calculating the moves . as i have 8 gb ram and intel iris xe graphics ; i think my stuttering problem is related to the GUI's inabilitiy to switch fast enough between variants when i try to enter new moves. (let me explain it 
actually the problem occurs after the analyze is stopped ,i try to enter the moves 1 by 1 via dragging the pieces with my mouse fastly , then the program cant match my speed . in other words it lags to enter the moves and gives me some freezes, lags etc.. btw i dont have to move them super fast even if i move it moderately slowly and just make 1 move it kinda frezzes for a sec or too . in my old pc's i dont remember having this problem but in this new one which on paper seems much better than in every aspect of hardware i had there is this problem .very weird.. ?btw dont bother to say use this engine or that cuz whichever engine i use the problem is te same even if i change the hashtable size to 1 mb the problem remains!! and 1 very pecuiliar thing is when i close my own database and open a new game or something . the lag doesnt totally disapper but decreases like %60 . (btw my database file ; ie cbh. file may not be very big database but its not divideed .let me explain that so when regular chessbase people like Daniel king. etc make files they diviide it into parts and subparts and chapters etc . so when u open the cbh file u see lots of diffrent games to click maybe 50 or 100 games .even the big databases that u can use have millions of games inside and  everbody can open them properly . but i dont make my own database like that .i want everything in the same file cuz its my opening repertoire so it seems like 1 game but its a huge collection of games ,with variant after variants sometimes going till the very end of the game, openings and etc i once tried to print it ,it was like 60 pages or something..).  i need a solution.please help . 

i need something which is faster than rybka 4 . by fast i dont mean calculating the moves . as i have 8 gb ram and intel iris xe graphics ; i think my stuttering problem is related to the GUI's inabilitiy to switch fast enough between variants when i try to enter new moves. (let me explain it 
actually the problem occurs after the analyze is stopped ,i try to enter the moves 1 by 1 via dragging the pieces with my mouse fastly , then the program cant match my speed . in other words it lags to enter the moves and gives me some freezes, lags etc.. btw i dont have to move them super fast even if i move it moderately slowly and just make 1 move it kinda frezzes for a sec or too . in my old pc's i dont remember having this problem but in this new one which on paper seems much better than in every aspect of hardware i had there is this problem .very weird.. ?btw dont bother to say use this engine or that cuz whichever engine i use the problem is te same even if i change the hashtable size to 1 mb the problem remains!! and 1 very pecuiliar thing is when i close my own database and open a new game or something . the lag doesnt totally disapper but decreases like %60 . (btw my database file ; ie cbh. file may not be very big database but its not divideed .let me explain that so when regular chessbase people like Daniel king. etc make files they diviide it into parts and subparts and chapters etc . so when u open the cbh file u see lots of diffrent games to click maybe 50 or 100 games .even the big databases that u can use have millions of games inside and  everbody can open them properly . but i dont make my own database like that .i want everything in the same file cuz its my opening repertoire so it seems like 1 game but its a huge collection of games ,with variant after variants sometimes going till the very end of the game, openings and etc i once tried to print it ,it was like 60 pages or something..).  i need a solution.please help . 

i need something which is faster than rybka 4 . by fast i dont mean calculating the moves . as i have 8 gb ram and intel iris xe graphics ; i think my stuttering problem is related to the GUI's inabilitiy to switch fast enough between variants when i try to enter new moves. 

There is no benefit to using an engine when you can instead just use your own mind.

It's more fun,  more rewarding and chess is just a game.

No winner would opt to have someone or something else play for them.  

If you use an engine to analyze a position then the engine is doing it and not you.

similarly,  if you use an engine to play,  then the engine is playing for you.

If you don't like to play chess,  then carry on.  

Chess is pretty fun,  guess some people are just afraid to do it themselves.

And nothing stops you from being better than an engine.

Winners are bulls.  

Your "world champion" never played me so obviously they're not much of a world champion.

They are an organization or site's champion. 

Similarly, the engines are only better than the players they can beat.   

Have fun spectating your "Teachers"  it's probably much safer than actually playing the game.

Might I also suggest you watch others do careers,  date,  socialize,  exercise,  dine or any number of things since that's your speed? 

/s

You can have your "official" organizations.  I've yet to make any opinion or judge it or them myself.

And no,  engines are only shown to be able to beat players they have played.  I'll believe them when I see them.

I have been playing chess since the 8th,  and so far,  I don't think this seems like a game that computers should be able to brute force.

If engines can play this,  they have to have some way of cutting corners or weeding out various possibilities / just juggling a few candidates and THAT means they are beatable.   Just have better ideas.

That is *if* chess even has good computers / engines yet (or players for that matter)

Sry for slam dunking your "arguments"  In hindsight,  that read off like a little bit of a roast,  and it wasn't my intention.  

You can have your "official" organizations.  I've yet to make any opinion or judge it or them myself.

And no,  engines are only shown to be able to beat players they have played.  I'll believe them when I see them.

I have been playing chess since the 8th,  and so far,  I don't think this seems like a game that computers should be able to brute force.

If engines can play this,  they have to have some way of cutting corners or weeding out various possibilities / just juggling a few candidates and THAT means they are beatable.   Just have better ideas.

That is *if* chess even has good computers / engines yet (or players for that matter)

Sry for slam dunking your "arguments"  In hindsight,  that read off like a little bit of a roast,  and it wasn't my intention.  

I'm not judging stockfish nor carl.  I'm refraining to do so until I see for myself.

I've yet to decide if the chess world is worth anything,  as far as skill of either it's players or it's constructs.

If they,  or anything else in the chess world has credibility such as to make your thoughts make sense,  I am sure I will encounter something juicy in my chess journey.

Not holding my breath,    My first impressions was that 1) chess could be deep but 2) the chess world is shallow and unrefined despite the game deserving and potentially supporting better

Pffft,  it's not like people are going to stop playing chess.

Whether it will hold up or have to change is the only question.

Let's see.  I will randomly play games and see if anyone or anything has good answers.    I'm sure if we fight it out,  over time,  failing parties must conform or just get crushed.

That's how it works in nature anyways.

thanks a lot for all of u guys

. i tried arena but found it so complicated. (it probably didnt support cbh files i guess so i tried to open the pgn format but dont remember what happened the interface of arena was very distastefully iriitating cuz it was so complicated.. )

then i tried scid vs pc it didnt support it  i guess cuz it gave an error like this ! "Opening Sniper-ACdr. PG MB SB DI KI.pgn read-only
Importing file D:/YEDEK MIKROO USB/Sniper-ACdr. PG MB SB DI KI/Sniper-ACdr. PG MB SB DI KI.pgn
Error encoding game. Game size 256000, Max game size 131072. 
Error saving game in database."   

... i dont remember of stockfish haveing an GUI. i also tried lucas chess which is a great program for solvin puzzles and stuff but it dont support my file either..i found 2 programs that i can use online in my browsert but i need something permanent! something that i can install on my pc which is user friendly and can support my files..

If you use an engine to analyze a position then the engine is doing it and not you.

similarly,  if you use an engine to play,  then the engine is playing for you.

If you don't like to play chess,  then carry on.  

Chess is pretty fun,  guess some people are just afraid to do it themselves.

And nothing stops you from being better than an engine.

Winners are bulls.  

You can have your "official" organizations.  I've yet to make any opinion or judge it or them myself.

And no,  engines are only shown to be able to beat players they have played.  I'll believe them when I see them.

I have been playing chess since the 8th,  and so far,  I don't think this seems like a game that computers should be able to brute force.

If engines can play this,  they have to have some way of cutting corners or weeding out various possibilities / just juggling a few candidates and THAT means they are beatable.   Just have better ideas.

That is *if* chess even has good computers / engines yet (or players for that matter)

Sry for slam dunking your "arguments"  In hindsight,  that read off like a little bit of a roast,  and it wasn't my intention.  

"Garry K" and "Deep blue" have no meaning to me.

I'm sure Chess engines, if they are being called Engines brute force filtered lines to a certain depth OR call a resource in final positions when applicable, and even the latter i'm not sure exists yet BUT if it does that's how they do it.

If you, or an article tried to tell me otherwise, i'd be highly suspicious and write you off accordingly.

"Garry K" and "Deep blue" have no meaning to me. 

I'm sure Chess engines,  if they are being called Engines brute force filtered lines to a certain depth OR call a resource in final positions when applicable,  and even the latter i'm not sure exists yet BUT if it does that's how they do it.

If you, or an article tried to tell me otherwise,  i'd be highly suspicious and write you off accordingly.

Idle noise.

I have yet to see indicators that I am not the strongest (despite being brand spanking new) I can one by one go through every machine or man randoms point me to, and go through the millions of chess playing entities by the time i'm done.

LOL hard pass. My time is more valuable than that and yours.

If there is a worthy thing in the chess world I expect it to make itself known in due time.

And I do hope i'm wrong, and that chess has something to show for itself after such a long runtime.

I think I may understand your problem, at least as far as Scid vs. PC goes. If I understand you correctly, you're putting a massive amount of information into only one game, by creating a huge number of variations?

In that Scid error message, it's telling you that your game size is 256,000 bytes, but the maximum game size that Scid allows is only 131,072 bytes. In Scid's "Help" section, it states that Scid can usually represent a single move with 8 bytes of data. Therefore, Scid can only allow an average of 16,384 moves in a single game. (131,072 divided by 8). However, your game apparently has at least 32,000 moves in it. (256,000 divided by 8).

So, it seems to me that you need to stop creating games that exceed Scid's size limitation. You can still view all of the variations by using Scid's "Tree Window" feature.

And as far as your Chessbase GUI is concerned, it seems to me that it can handle your game size of 32,000 moves, but due to the large game size, the GUI is acting sluggishly.-

yeah i think u got it right ! but what can i do now ! i put like years of effort on that opening study ! so i dont wanna destroy it ! what is ur suggestion ? for example a pgn cutter than can divide the pgn version of it into 3 pieces so every on of the file would have less then 32000 moves ? for now i am using a site called "https://chesstempo.com/pgn-viewer/" but i can only use it on my home or somewhere that has internet acces . iwould be going to some other city the next week or so and i wouldnt have a stable internet connection so i need something static like rybka 4 that can be installed on my pc and can work without internet connection ! please guys i have been trying to figure a solution to this problem for months and still couldnt found a stable solution .any help will be much appreciated ! thanks...