Differences between Beginner and Advanced - Chess Forums

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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Defeated and Run. It is one of many indicators that distinguish between a beginner and an advanced.

Why are most of the bullet players run after they were defeated by the player who has the skill balanced or more of their. We can say that almost no rematch among the beginners. However, this didnt occur among the players who have a rating of 2000 and above. I wonder, in my opinion, a rematch should happen on a massive scale among the beginners so that they can share experiences, and mutual hone skills through practice. Im a beginner. Are you a beginner too and to be one of them? What is your response on this issue?

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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#2

Wolffee wrote:

Lots of the "beginners" as you call them don't rematch because they are most likely just looking to increase their ratings. So when they lose, they want to find someone they can beat. However, the stronger players are mostly just here to play good chess, so when they find a strong player or a stronger player, they play lots of games together. Weak chess players stay weak because they prefer to play sub-optimal chess in favor of boosting ratings, and this boosting their egos. This is my opinion at least. I rematch everyone I play, regardless of strength. If they don't accept, I move on and play someone else. :)

Is that way, they are collecting a fake points only? A number of points that useless. Points are not representative of their skills..!?

Pre_VizsIa

Mar 6, 2014

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#3

The only time I ever play bullet/blitz is when I don't have time for a longer game, so you won't get rematches from me often, period.

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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Timothy_P wrote:

The only time I ever play bullet/blitz is when I don't have time for a longer game, so you won't get rematches from me often, period.

If that is the reason of you, I think it can be tolerated.

richb8888

Mar 6, 2014

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#5

it can be tolerated thats nice of you lol

varelse1

Mar 6, 2014

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#6

Of course, many advanced players do the same thing. I guess a common thread cannot be called a difference.

jdcannon

Mar 6, 2014

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#7

I actually find just the opposite to be true; in bullet I am about 1600. I often play long series of games against lower rated opponents. But in the event that I snag a game against a 2000+ player they usually jet after a game or two.

Pre_VizsIa

Mar 6, 2014

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varelse1 wrote:

Of course, many advanced players do the same thing. I guess a common thread cannot be called a difference.

he changed the title after I posted...

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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jdcannon wrote:

I actually find just the opposite to be true; in bullet I am about 1600. I often play long series of games against lower rated opponents. But in the event that I snag a game against a 2000+ player they usually jet after a game or two.

Please observe the match between GM Joey with his opponents. This is just one of several players who should be an example. In fact, sometimes he doesnt care about the rating when he faces a lower rated player.

jdcannon

Mar 6, 2014

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Monster-Bullet wrote:

jdcannon wrote:

I actually find just the opposite to be true; in bullet I am about 1600. I often play long series of games against lower rated opponents. But in the event that I snag a game against a 2000+ player they usually jet after a game or two.

Please observe the match between GM Joey with his opponents. This is just one of several players who should be an example. In fact, sometimes he doesnt care about the rating when he faces a lower rated player.

So, your orginal statement and my retort both rely on anncedotal evidence. If you are really think there is a correlation between rematches and ratings you should probably collect data.

You should probably take 100 players with more than 500 games at each rating level and look to see with what frequancy they play mataches of 5 or more games with opponents.

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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varelse1 wrote:

Of course, many advanced players do the same thing. I guess a common thread cannot be called a difference.

According to me: the term "most" is not equal to "many" !

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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#12

chessmicky wrote:

What is this weird concern with rematches? About half the topic threads here seem to be about how people who give rematches are cowards or traitors or perverts. This is really peculiar thinking!

Wolffee was said "Weak chess players stay weak because they prefer to play sub-optimal chess in favor of boosting ratings, and this boosting their egos." Please read his comment above. (at #2).

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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jdcannon wrote:

Monster-Bullet wrote:

jdcannon wrote:

I actually find just the opposite to be true; in bullet I am about 1600. I often play long series of games against lower rated opponents. But in the event that I snag a game against a 2000+ player they usually jet after a game or two.

Please observe the match between GM Joey with his opponents. This is just one of several players who should be an example. In fact, sometimes he doesnt care about the rating when he faces a lower rated player.

So, your orginal statement and my retort both rely on anncedotal evidence. If you are really think there is a correlation between rematches and ratings you should probably collect data.

You should probably take 100 players with more than 500 games at each rating level and look to see with what frequancy they play mataches of 5 or more games with opponents.

You don't need to think that it was complicated. You can easily determine this by opening your game archives. Try to find out how many game that you have played with the same player that it made more than 5 games in a row. You can calculate and make a percentage for the data. This is no different from that experienced by other beginners.

jdcannon

Mar 6, 2014

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#14

Monster-Bullet wrote:

jdcannon wrote:

Monster-Bullet wrote:

jdcannon wrote:

I actually find just the opposite to be true; in bullet I am about 1600. I often play long series of games against lower rated opponents. But in the event that I snag a game against a 2000+ player they usually jet after a game or two.

Please observe the match between GM Joey with his opponents. This is just one of several players who should be an example. In fact, sometimes he doesnt care about the rating when he faces a lower rated player.

So, your orginal statement and my retort both rely on anncedotal evidence. If you are really think there is a correlation between rematches and ratings you should probably collect data.

You should probably take 100 players with more than 500 games at each rating level and look to see with what frequancy they play mataches of 5 or more games with opponents.

You don't need to think that it was complicated. You can easily determine this by opening your game archives. Try to find out how many game that you have played with the same player that it made more than 5 games in a row. You can calculate and make a percentage for the data. This is no different from that experienced by other beginners.

Doing it for myself only is a far cry from a representative data pool. How can you possibly say that my experience is no different from other beginners?

Monster-Bullet

Mar 6, 2014

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#15

jdcannon wrote:

Monster-Bullet wrote:

jdcannon wrote:

Monster-Bullet wrote:

jdcannon wrote:

I actually find just the opposite to be true; in bullet I am about 1600. I often play long series of games against lower rated opponents. But in the event that I snag a game against a 2000+ player they usually jet after a game or two.

Please observe the match between GM Joey with his opponents. This is just one of several players who should be an example. In fact, sometimes he doesnt care about the rating when he faces a lower rated player.

So, your orginal statement and my retort both rely on anncedotal evidence. If you are really think there is a correlation between rematches and ratings you should probably collect data.

You should probably take 100 players with more than 500 games at each rating level and look to see with what frequancy they play mataches of 5 or more games with opponents.

You don't need to think that it was complicated. You can easily determine this by opening your game archives. Try to find out how many game that you have played with the same player that it made more than 5 games in a row. You can calculate and make a percentage for the data. This is no different from that experienced by other beginners.

Doing it for myself only is a far cry from a representative data pool. How can you possibly say that my experience is no different from other beginners?

I knew it from your game archive. Just a few game that you have played more than once face the same opponent.