Difference between puzzle rating and live chess - Chess Forums - Page 6

brasileirosim · 2020-04-21T17:07:11-07:00

Puzzle rating is certainly higher than blitz or rapid rating in chess.com. Do you know how much point higher? Something like 300 points or more?

brasileirosim

Jun 29, 2021

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#101

Erik0485 wrote:

Solving puzzles and finding/creating tactics in an actual game are two totally different things. Puzzle rating doesn't mean much imo.

It means at least something. It means that you recognize a lot of useful patterns. You still have to find them in the games, but without knowing the patterns it is difficult, actually mostly impossible.

KAISER1419

Jun 30, 2021

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#102

I think you can always learn tactics solving puzzles, but that doesn't mean if I am 2200 rating in puzzles I should be 1200 in rapid. Facing a puzzle is completely different from when you face an actual game. When you are doing puzzles you know that mostly there is a way where you can create a big advantage, while real chess situations are not that obvious.

And of course, the time management changes it all. Rapid games normally are 10min, and I personally can spend more than 15 minutes trying to solve a single puzzle (and even so I still fail sometimes xD).

By the way, how much time do you spend solving a single puzzle??? Do you try to target the time bonus?? 90%+ of the time I can't get it.

xuhuanhuan

Jun 30, 2021

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#103

charrlehh

Jun 30, 2021

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#104

brasileirosim wrote:

charrlehh wrote:

900 rapid but 1900 puzzles

Really? Very strong tactical skills for a beginner! I would say you are doing something wrong in the opening or endgame. With 1900 in puzzles you should be around 1200 in rapid.

I think i just get tilted very easily tbh

ninjaswat

Jun 30, 2021

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#105

KAISER1419 wrote:

I think you can always learn tactics solving puzzles, but that doesn't mean if I am 2200 rating in puzzles I should be 1200 in rapid. Facing a puzzle is completely different from when you face an actual game. When you are doing puzzles you know that mostly there is a way where you can create a big advantage, while real chess situations are not that obvious.

And of course, the time management changes it all. Rapid games normally are 10min, and I personally can spend more than 15 minutes trying to solve a single puzzle (and even so I still fail sometimes xD).

By the way, how much time do you spend solving a single puzzle??? Do you try to target the time bonus?? 90%+ of the time I can't get it.

I spend say 1-2 minutes at most.

krazeechess

Jun 30, 2021

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#106

rapid is 1800 and puzzles is 2900

brasileirosim

Jun 30, 2021

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#107

KAISER1419 wrote:

I think you can always learn tactics solving puzzles, but that doesn't mean if I am 2200 rating in puzzles I should be 1200 in rapid. Facing a puzzle is completely different from when you face an actual game. When you are doing puzzles you know that mostly there is a way where you can create a big advantage, while real chess situations are not that obvious.

And of course, the time management changes it all. Rapid games normally are 10min, and I personally can spend more than 15 minutes trying to solve a single puzzle (and even so I still fail sometimes xD).

By the way, how much time do you spend solving a single puzzle??? Do you try to target the time bonus?? 90%+ of the time I can't get it.

I don’t try to think every puzzle unto the end, and this is one of the problems that prevents me to go over 2200 and stay there. Sometimes I see easily the moves, get too confident after 5 puzzles, and begin to guess and not calculate at all, which is of course bad.

brasileirosim

Jun 30, 2021

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#108

krazeechess wrote:

rapid is 1800 and puzzles is 2900

This is within the expected range, I guess, 700 to 800 higher in puzzles.

Tails204

Jun 30, 2021

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#109

Puzzle rating? That's really something to be proud of!

botvinnik1961

Jul 10, 2021

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#110

1450 rapid, 1600 puzzle

brasileirosim

Jul 10, 2021

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#111

Tails204 wrote:

Puzzle rating? That's really something to be proud of!

Do you mean it ironically? Proud of improving in chess, yes, and getting better at puzzles is surely a sign that you are doing something right.

brasileirosim

Jul 10, 2021

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#112

botvinnik1961 wrote:

1450 rapid, 1600 puzzle

Your puzzle rating could be better, perhaps 2200, according to your rapid rating.

riverwalk3

Jul 10, 2021

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#113

Basing off the leaderboard, it seems like the average difference should be 500-600. I'm 1300s in live/daily (though definitely underrated given the way my most recent games have gone and how much lessons I have done since then), and 2500 puzzles.

ninjaswat

Jul 10, 2021

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#114

riverwalk3 wrote:

Basing off the leaderboard, it seems like the average difference should be 500-600. I'm 1300s in live/daily (though definitely underrated given the way my most recent games have gone and how much lessons I have done since then), and 2500 puzzles.

After 1500 more like 800+ difference. I was 2600 at 1600. Not climbed higher yet.

assgatito

Jul 10, 2021

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#115

I am 1000, got 1800 in the puzzles so +800

ponz111

Jul 10, 2021

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#116

apples and oranges.

dfgh123

Jul 10, 2021

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#117

unopposed attempts to win material like having a trust fund.

krazeechess

Jul 10, 2021

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#118

1800 rapid but 3k puzzles

assgatito

Jul 10, 2021

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#119

yea, i think checks are looked for more in puzzles

Zardorian

Jul 10, 2021

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#120

From reading the many posts here, it seems pretty arbitrary what the difference is between the puzzle rating and the chess rating. Doing the puzzles definitely helps, I think, because it helps you establish patterns and recognize patterns, but I’ve beat plenty of players who had a much higher puzzle rating than I had at the time. Mine is just over 2000 now, but I get beat often by people with much lower puzzle ratings. But again, I definitely feel it’s an excellent tool to improve your chess skills.