Difficulty seeing how to develop properly with this pawn structure

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sg4rb0

Hi,

Don't quiz me on openings because I just don't know them very well at all.  But I sometimes get a pawn structure like this for black, and I don't know why but I find it really hard to develop properly with my pieces.  I am currently learning a french tarassch defense with the immediate 3.. c5 and this is one example where I know I will be getting these pawn structures.  I think the problem is that in normal games, it's obvious where to put my pawns to cause tension in the center, but when it's very open like this, I get lost.  There's no head or tip of my opponents pawn chain, and thus no immediate breaks because the position is very open.  Sometimes I find it hard to get in moves like a6 and b5 to get my light squared bishop active because of tempo loss generated by that pawn maneuver.  Does anyone know if this pawn structure has a name, and has anyone got some games where black got his development sorted?

 

Thanks

 

french

Uh. put a link to the opening you want help with. 

french

i mean a pgn

sg4rb0

I don't need help with any particular opening.  I need help with this pawn structure, and typical  pawn/piece manoeuvres in this pawn structure to get your pieces co-ordinated and developed.  You can chose any opening you like, it's exactly the same problem/question.

french

oh. Well, usually it depends on the position of the peices, but generally, white will try to get a passed queenside pawn, and black will either advance in center or kingside. But this pawn structure is so ..variable.. that anything could happen

TestPatzer

A lot depends on the actual moves (and setup) that White has here, so I can't give a "here's where everything should go!" recommendation for Black, based on pawns alone.

Though, *generally*, this is the kind of development scheme I would use with that pawn structure:

Again, though, these piece positions (and pawn formations) would change, depending on the position of White's pieces, and any potential tactics that may arise.

Hope any of that helps.

sg4rb0

Thanks for this.  Also I've been trying to do some more reading around this pawn structure, so I wanted to share with you some common ideas and problems I've found for anyone else that might come across this post.  Black has an option of trying to play a6 b5 and Bb7, this is obvious.  But a common theme I found was that white can play a4, preventing b5 (or at least severly discouraging it due to the weakness in structure it creates on a6 (whilst he retained nice pawns on the b and c file).  So another way black can consider developing the bishop if this happens (or doesn't happen actually, but it's an option), is that black can try to plan for e5, thus freeing up the c8-h3 diagonal, and giving the light squared bishop chances to come to f5, e6, and d7 with excellent coverage of light squares.  Another option is the manoeuvre of Bd7 Bc6, or b6 Bb7.  I'm not sure what scenarios and stuff are good for those ones, so I will continue researching.  But there are a couple more ideas happy.png

sg4rb0

Found another good menoevre, that sometimes is good, simply b6 and Ba6.  Worth keeping in mind.