Disconnect Cheat Glitch

I understand you reasoning, but still it was very strange. If it happens again, may be play in "lichess", there never is happen. I remember a long time ago also was happen. I no am playing through 4G, this is high speed ADSL, and never interrupt except there tell us beforehand. In that match it is happen a desconexion just may be 30 seconds or a little less, but this is a way too long time. I still will suspect a hacker's hand in this server, making not possible a conexion with me from the server. Wish you all best, and thanks for your answer. Daniel

MGleason definately gets five stars for patience given how many time he has explained this (along with others) I blame films. They are good but make things such as hacking seem easier than they really are I agree the issue could be anything in between the client and server (including the server) but it is not hacking of that I am certain.

I have not experienced this myself as I rarely play live chess, but I know how this sort of technology works.

Yeah, the difference is that people don't usually notice when their connections are unstable. In the average person's daily life, you wouldn't even notice if you were getting 50% disconnections because no one is pointing it out. But here, we're told right away, as we should.

The vast majority of the userbase doesn't have a clue about how the Internet actually works, which is quite apparent in their attempts at explaining why "it can't possibly be their connection"; and that's okay! We don't need to know everything. The problem is when someone doesn't listen to people who are trying to explain things to them.

You also are much more likely to notice disconnections in games you're winning than in games you're losing.  When you're losing, it's nowhere near as disappointing since you were going to lose anyway.  But when you're winning, you notice it and remember it.

But there simply is no army of super-hackers out there that have no greater ambitions for their hacking abilities than to cheat in a small handful of chess games.

MGleason, 5 stars for explaining me what i already know : the impossibility that this can happen. May be it was a very very big casuality : i browse each day 100 web sites, i play other games, ... never experience a disconexion, only in chess.com. Seconds casuality is this happen 2 times playing with same people in same match. Casuality. Wish you all best and thanks again.

Read my last comment in this thread, it might help you understand your problem better.

I already read your post. And i already previously have some understanding of internet, i even program programs which use Internet. My only explanation without hackers is this server is laging for some users. If there is a general problem of chess.com then it will notice and result of game would not be favor one player, so may be chess.com choice randomly people to disconnect them, for save internet room, even if a one player only need to send few instructions (movements) to the server. Khallyx, you can read what i have written, i told this may be was a casuality, because using all other servers i have used, a package always come to destinations in a second, and never trigger 30 seconds to arrive (like a chess.com disconexion). Or may be it is a station between me and chess.com which check my sended information, retain it 30 seconds, but only if destination is chess.com, ... ? 

1. Just because you can program something, doesn't mean you know anything about servers/networking.

2. The fact that you'd even consider hackers in the first place proves that you don't know how servers work.

3. Your hypothesis that there is a "general problem", that they know about it and then randomly disconnect people to save "internet room" is absurd in every level.

4. Have you actually conducted any real network testing on any server whatsoever? Would you know how to go about doing it in the first place?

5. It MAY be a problem with your ISP or a router, yes. That wouldn't make it Chess.com's fault, which is kind of the point. However, I'd find it hard to accept they would do it intentionally by identifying the traffic, but rather an automatic internal throttling algorithm (which is still highly unlikely).

I claimed his queen and my network immediately goes down. There is definitely a cheat these guys are using with high ranks but know nothing about chess.. This has happened with me many times and always when I am about to win.

I just checked your archive.

You have 84 games won "by abandonment", which means they disconnected (possibly intentionally, but possibly also due to bad internet; there's no way for the server to tell).  You have 28 games lost "by abandonment".  So you have won many more games due to an opponent

Of those 28 games lost "by abandonment",

7 were in a position where you were winning

10 were in the opening (in one case, after zero moves).  In a couple of those games one side or the other had a small advantage, but nothing significant.

4 were in a roughly even position (within +- 2.00), after the opening

7 were in a position where you were losing

Thus, this happens just as often when you're losing as when you're winning, and it also happens occasionally in positions that are roughly even.  This looks like what you would expect from occasional random connection issues, not a cheat.

It is simply not true that it always happens when you're about to win.  Yes, you were about to win the most recent time it happened, but looking farther back in your archive, it happens just as often when you're about to lose.

However, it can feel like it happens more often when you're about to win.  If it happens when you're about to lose, you were going to lose anyway, so it doesn't really matter, and you don't remember it.  But if it happens when you're about to win, you feel like the game got stolen from you, and it hurts, and you remember it.  That makes it feel like it happens more when you're about to win, even though that's not actually the case.

AND... IT STILL HAPPENING IN 2024, COME ON CHESS.COM BE SERIOUS, I'M OUT CHESS.COM NOW COZ THEY ARE NEVER TAKE THIS ISSUE SERIOUSLY.

There is no disconnect cheat.

There are disconnects caused by internet glitches and connectivity problems that are unrelated to your opponent, but this is not something that your opponent is doing.

You can find games you lost due to a disconnection by searching your archive for games lost "by abandonment"; the server doesn't know if the disconnect was intentional or not and so they all just get called "by abandonment".

You have five such losses: https://www.chess.com/games/archive/ewingklipspringer?gameOwner=other_game&gameResult=abandoned&gameType=live&timeSort=desc

* 2 early in the opening (3 and 5 moves in)
* 2 later in the opening (8 and 11 moves in), one of which you are already losing
* 1 late middlegame position where you are losing (facing mate in 3)

This doesn't catch games where you disconnected but recovered, but none of these games could really be described as a winning position. Two of the five had a clear advantage for the other side; the other three were roughly equal.

player [removed -- MS] is able to disconnect OTHER player during chess game... you will ALWAYS end up losing. This player does this method non-stop. Screens available

Your opponents can't cause you to disconnect.

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8584209-how-do-i-fix-my-disconnect-lag-issues

He has no consistent pattern of disconnecting his opponents.

Games lost due to disconnections are recorded in the database as lost "by abandonment". Look at how many game he has won "by abandonment" out of his overall total - it's a tiny percentage.

#inb4thelock