Do most beginners prefer longer time controls?

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Little_Eth

I am a beginner player with a rating of 850 or so... usually, I play 10 min time control which is I guess it's longer but I prefer to think out my moves. Also if anybody wants to play me, and you would probably beat me, just shoot me a friend request.

 

st0ckfish

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Little_Eth

Thx

 

st0ckfish

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SuperFlameNB

I sorta am the opposite, I loved fast chess early on, but now i'm starting to like rapid more. Also, I'm 850-ish in blitz and 900-ish in rapid. Suggestions on how to improve?

Colby-Covington
Little_Eth wrote:

I am a beginner player with a rating of 850 or so... usually, I play 10 min time control which is I guess it's longer but I prefer to think out my moves. Also if anybody wants to play me, and you would probably beat me, just shoot me a friend request.

Not at all, some people don't realize this, but 10 min is still considered part of the Blitz time control under the unified FIDE tournament regulations and I believe chess.com adopted that rule, as well.

I personally think that's a nice amount of time to play.

 

Little_Eth
Colby-Covington wrote:
Little_Eth wrote:

I am a beginner player with a rating of 850 or so... usually, I play 10 min time control which is I guess it's longer but I prefer to think out my moves. Also if anybody wants to play me, and you would probably beat me, just shoot me a friend request.

Not at all, some people don't realize this, but 10 min is still considered part of the Blitz time control under the unified FIDE tournament regulations and I believe chess.com adopted that rule, as well.

I personally think that's a nice amount of time to play.

Yeah, it's not too long, nor too short either. I just knew that the PCL (Pro Chess League) used a 10 min time control although it's a 10/2 control. But I agree with you, I think many people prefer either a 3min control or something longer like a 15/10. So I guess 10 min is in the middle of those. 

 

lukethebear88

im kind of "intermediate" and I  do 15 mins + 10 sec increment or 30 mins.

But however, I think beginners (because of their fast movement) play 10 to 15 mins games.

lukethebear88
Wolfgreen7 wrote:

I've been playing for 2 months its true for me that I prefer longer time controls, I spend a while on moves.

same but I played for about 1 year

DiogenesDue

Most beginners only play chess, and chess has no time controls or clocks.  Tournament rules, clocks, time controls, etc. are all external to the actual game of chess.  Chess, as with most turn based games, allows each player as much time to decide their move as they prefer.

Colby-Covington

@btickler I think the definition of the term chess is somewhat open to interpretation, but in my opinion there can be no chess without a time element, seeing as any competitive, turn based game requires time ramifications in order to be viable and sensible.

Especially, concerning strategy and thinking games, granting each player an infinite amount of time seems highly counter-intuitive and rather boring.

Lucas_Bomfim
Bertovzki wrote:
Lucas_Bomfim wrote:

A thing I find out is that studying openings is the best thing you can do in order to improve. Forget tactics, I'm trying to learn 3 or 4 lines out of every famous opening.

Openings is just memorization and only helps in to a point , Tactics and end game is where you should be studying chess without question , a friend of mine is a good natural player , she is rated 2100 plus she has never learned openings


 Tactics and endgame are also rote memorization just like openings. All aspects of the game are important, but I believe openings are the most. Things like pawn structures and middle game planning are the most spectulative aspects of the game and they rely less on memorization than others.

The thing is, you can focus on things other than tactics and still improve at it by just playing(even if your improvement will be limited), but you can't just play and expect to learn openings out of nothing. That's knowledge that has to be studied in order to be learned.

I'm focusing on getting all possible knowledge before I develop "muscles"(being able to calculate and evaluate things quickly). So tactics are the last thing I'm focusing on.

Bertovzki

Yes looking at GM games is good too , I look at a variety of aspects , yes lots of things to help beginners , Just opening principles  , development , can be very helpful and easy to learn

 

Colby-Covington

@Lucas_Bomfim Agreed, mastering the opening is the key to reaching the next level. Tactics and puzzles are a nice addition but basically useless if one can't reach these critical positions, because they don't know opening theory. I'd actually go so far as to say that the opening is the most essential piece in building a strong foundation.

If you want to improve quickly you need to specialize in an opening and go from there, that's my advice to any beginner.

It's very similar to MMA and fighting. The best fighters in the world have a discipline they specialize in and use it as a foundation for the rest. Just look at Khabib or Jon Jones for example.

Bertovzki

Yes I agree with what you say about specializing or familiarity , I only play the London and its variations and the Black Lion , I find myself with black transposing into familiar structures and often get the black Lion through transposition , it helps a lot to be familiar territory often

Colby-Covington

I have been trying out the London on lichess lately, which is where I usually test new lines, and while I definitely have had some success with it, I ultimately conculde that it's just not suited for Blitz games. I noticed a lot of my London games going way past the 30-40 move limit, and I drew a lot more too. Since it's such a popular opening, pretty much everybody and their mum knows the best defensive moves 20 moves deep and it just doesn't offer the aggressive/dynamic options that my other main openings do. But that's just me of course, because I am an aggressive player.

For Blitz I swear by the Albin Counter and Blackmar Diemer for <2200 players.

When I play OTB against anything +2250, I usually break out a boring Sicillian or QG too, but for an online 3 min match, there is just nothing like a crushing attack, even if it isn't perfectly sound.

Bertovzki

Check out my last two games , different openings same attacking idea , they look very similar endings , one it the London , one the Robatsch or Modern , I find this interesting because it is exactly what I was talking about with using similar ideas , and being familiar with positions in another opening

Colby-Covington

This is your latest Rapid game, do you mean that one?

I just looked up the Black Lion opening on youtube and of course I see GingerGM on there.😌

Seems pretty solid and actually quite dynamic. You played the best moves in the opening which shows you studied it well, but quickly went of course when your opponent played different moves and you had to adjust the movement pattern, I have that same problem. I memorize 100 line variations, but then my opponent makes mistakes and now the best moves that you have extensively studied don't work anymore and you need to improvise, that's when I lose the most too.

 

Bertovzki

Yes it is one of the rules Ginger always points out , often 5 rules broken down in an opening , and one is always " be flexible " , its like rule 3 , so sometimes I play a different move order , or just what looks best , generally I am always in some familiar ground

Bertovzki

And thats not the games I was talking about , that was not a serious attempt it was a fill in while waiting for another player to move in daily , all the games I have against bot is just trying ideas , I usually play unrated and choice colour to practice an opening or ideas