Do people on this site seem touchier about sockpuppetry than most?

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InfiniteFlash

I literally lold when I read the title

Jimmykay
johnmusacha wrote:

That was months ago, before I was reinstated here.  Is that too hard for you to figure out, scumbag?

so are you saying you are reformed, and no longer a "scumbag" yourself? There was a reason you were banned...are you going to resort to that again? Or are you on the mend? you seem kind of like a scumbag to me.

DiogenesDue
johnmusacha wrote:

On most sites, the users take sockpuppetry in stride.  On this site, most users seem to get totally bent out of shape about it and go on posting longwinded essays about it.  

Why is that?

On most sites, the sockpuppets are less universally annoying...and on most sites, if people keep starting obvious troll threads, like "women in chess blah blah blah" or "Magnus is a model, I love him", they get banned...not after months of abuse, but immediately upon posting a "known" trolling topic that the forum has hashed out many times already (when the OP is obviously a brand new account with no other significant activity other than the aformentioned trolling posts).  

The problem here is that you need more headcount for forum customer service, or you have to give volunteer mods powers that volunteer mods really should not have on a commercial site.  Chess.com's revenue model doesn't seem to support such headcount, though...so, they seem to just let it go, like the spamming.

winerkleiner

Talking about touchy, I have someone who's threatening to do harm to me "break my fu*cking neck" saying "no more games, it's been 3 years"...and something about pictures, weird.

johnmusacha
tkbunny wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

That was months ago, before I was reinstated here.  Is that too hard for you to figure out, scumbag?

1. all worked up & using abusive language.  

2. a fresh a/c coincidentally abuses me via pm after calling u out.

yes, obviously u've changed.

oh, & what were u asking in ur op?

I don't know what to tell ya; deal with it and quit yer whinging, jerk.

johnmusacha
btickler wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

On most sites, the users take sockpuppetry in stride.  On this site, most users seem to get totally bent out of shape about it and go on posting longwinded essays about it.  

Why is that?

On most sites, the sockpuppets are less universally annoying...and on most sites, if people keep starting obvious troll threads, like "women in chess blah blah blah" or "Magnus is a model, I love him", they get banned...not after months of abuse, but immediately upon posting a "known" trolling topic that the forum has hashed out many times already.

The problem here is that you need more headcount for forum customer service, or you have to give volunteer mods powers that volunteer mods really should not have on a commericial site.  Chess.com's revenue model doesn't seem to support such headcount, though...so, they seem to just let it go, like the spamming.

I agree.  

johnmusacha

And how did you "call me out"?  By posting your semi literate idiocy and wild accusations of sockpuppets?  Nobody cares.  Sod off.

AlCzervik

No, by pointing out that you are a dunce. You ask why sockpuppets are not liked here. You've received enough answers that should accomodate you. Instead, you're searching for someone, anyone, to agree with your notion that sockpuppets don't matter.

Even if you don't agree with people that say it's wrong (and, you obviously don't think so), it violates tos.

kco

    ...and wild accusations of sockpuppets?   freaking hilarious.

Mika_Rao
trysts wrote:

You were apart of the reason for distrust in this community, johnmusascha.

QFTT

Each person affects the community, and changes it, even if only a little.  It's funny to me that you of all people would ask this question JM.

johnmusacha

I have a curious mind.

Newkidonadonkey

An avatar is an avatar is an avatar.

learningthemoves

Mr. Sock Puppet has recently made a number of people very angry, including me. However, as anger serves no function in a successful forum post rebuttal, I will simply state objectively that Mr. Puppet flaunts his personal policies and attitudes in front of everyone else here at the Chess.com community forums. 

While we all despair over Mr. Puppet's asinine, obtrusive epithets, we must also remember the principles that will guide our better behaviors and higher aspirations. Believe it or not, I really want to believe that Mr. Puppet is a decent, honest person. Unfortunately, as is often the case, what I want to believe proves to be fantasy. The truth is that if Mr. Puppet had lived the short, sickly, miserable life of a chattel serf in the ages “before technocracy” he wouldn't be so keen to increase society's cycle of hostility and violence.

Maybe he'd even begin to realize that he knows exactly where he wants his nemeses. He wants to put them in the lowest-paying jobs. He wants to put them outside the equal protection of the law. He wants to put them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. And then he expects them to sing his praises? The reality is that Mr. Puppet is not a responsible forum community member at all. Responsible members lift the fog from his thinking. Responsible members obviously do not replace discourse and open dialogue with filthy squibs and blatant ugliness.

Mr. Puppet fails to comprehend and practice the teachings of his own religion. More precisely, he conveniently forgets his religion's messages of peace, love, compassion, acceptance, and forgiveness—or, at best, misremembers them as an edict to let the worst types of stolid potlickers I've ever seen serve as our forum overlords.

He desperately wants us to believe that everyone with a different set of beliefs from his is going to get a one-way ticket to Hell.

The way I see it, we as forum members here really just have these two options:

Either sit back and let such lies go unchallenged or...

fight back with the truth.

I have decided to fight back.

I shall do so by spreading the truth about how the real question here is not, “Where do we go from here?”. The real question is rather, “Why does Mr. Puppet have to be such a party pooper?”

The best answer ironically comes from Mr. Puppet himself. That is, if you pay careful attention to his self-indulgent memoranda you'll unquestionably notice that Mr. Puppet is undoubtedly proud of himself for conconcting such a “brilliant” scheme for leaving a forum of people planted in the mud of a depraved chess world to begin a new life in the shadows of fainéantism. In my opinion, however, that's the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas this forum has produced. Much better would be to free members from the fetters of miserabilism's poisonous embrace. This reply has gone on far too long for one post in my opinion (and probably yours as well.) So let me end it by saying merely that it is impolitic, dangerous, degrading, and unjust to stonewall on issues in which the community has already spoken and declared a vital public interest. End the blatant sock puppetry now. Without using them as your cronies, all you have left are digital strawmen.

bigpoison

The reason was cheating at online chess, not multiple accounts.

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Jimmykay wrote:

johnmusacha wrote:

That was months ago, before I was reinstated here.  Is that too hard for you to figure out, scumbag?

so are you saying you are reformed, and no longer a "scumbag" yourself? There was a reason you were banned...are you going to resort to that again? Or are you on the mend? you seem kind of like a scumbag to me.

johnmusacha

I'm pretty sure that all those older posters, like the ones that have been here for over four years, are sockpuppets of one or two bored middle aged fetishists.

That Bunny/TK-Fuoaded fella also.

DiogenesDue
kaynight wrote:

WTF? Somebody translate into Klingon please.

That diatribe was generated by an app, it's not real.

johnmusacha
tkbunny wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

I'm pretty sure that all those older posters, like the ones that have been here for over four years, are sockpuppets of one or two bored middle aged fetishists.

That Bunny/TK-Fuoaded fella also.

wow unblocked again, right after a short vacation.  u must hv really missed me.  

weren't we just talking about wild accusations back there?  the mods know who i m.  u, on the other hand, attacked this site & its members & its mods from within & outside.  then u make a public apology on the site to get back in and go back to ur old ways.  nice.

You just . . . can't let it go . . . you feel the need to talk about me in every post much like Newt Gingrich vowed to mention Monica Lewinsky in every speech from the House floor in 1998.

Look where that got him.

For the record, where have I attacked anyone unprovoked?  Secondly, I have not made any sockpuppets.  Can you prove any of this?  Thirdly, why do you seem to care so much about any of this?  Why choose to jump into any discussion I start and say the same unproven assertions over and over?

Explain yourself.  I'm sure people would want to know.

Learn how to spell while you are at it.

macer75
btickler wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

On most sites, the users take sockpuppetry in stride.  On this site, most users seem to get totally bent out of shape about it and go on posting longwinded essays about it.  

Why is that?

On most sites, the sockpuppets are less universally annoying...and on most sites, if people keep starting obvious troll threads, like "women in chess blah blah blah" or "Magnus is a model, I love him", they get banned...not after months of abuse, but immediately upon posting a "known" trolling topic that the forum has hashed out many times already (when the OP is obviously a brand new account with no other significant activity other than the aformentioned trolling posts).  

Why do you say that threads like the ones you mentioned are "abuse"? As far as I see it it's just people having a bit of fun. An online community where anyone who creates a non-serious topic gets banned is, well, pretty boring.

johnmusacha

It's just a fundamental philosophical difference in how the site should be governed. 

The administration itself (I believe) is committed to keeping the site a fun, lighthearted, social site for young adults and teenagers, so it tolerates or even encourages creative yet non-serious expression.

Those that are rallying for this site to be more "serious" are barking up the wrong tree.

AlCzervik
macer75 wrote:
btickler wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

On most sites, the users take sockpuppetry in stride.  On this site, most users seem to get totally bent out of shape about it and go on posting longwinded essays about it.  

Why is that?

On most sites, the sockpuppets are less universally annoying...and on most sites, if people keep starting obvious troll threads, like "women in chess blah blah blah" or "Magnus is a model, I love him", they get banned...not after months of abuse, but immediately upon posting a "known" trolling topic that the forum has hashed out many times already (when the OP is obviously a brand new account with no other significant activity other than the aformentioned trolling posts).  

Why do you say that threads like the ones you mentioned are "abuse"? As far as I see it it's just people having a bit of fun. An online community where anyone who creates a non-serious topic gets banned is, well, pretty boring.

Original thoughts and ideas are fun.